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Radeon RX Vega 64 vs GeForce GTX 1080 FCAT Analysis
Posted by: on: 09/08/2017 07:53 AM [
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We review frame-pacing and frametime behaviour with the Radeon RX 64, but will compare it with the GeForce GTX 1080, will FCAT reveal some stuff we need to know?
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Nictron
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Posted on: 09/08/2017 10:05 AM
Thanks Hilbert, good review and shows that AMD is back in the game, if only we can find one to buy, nothing available at a good price here in South Africa.
One correction:
You also need to consider and wigh in that the GTX 1080 has a year to ripen it's driver whereas
You also need to consider and
Thanks Hilbert, good review and shows that AMD is back in the game, if only we can find one to buy, nothing available at a good price here in South Africa.
One correction:
You also need to consider and wigh in that the GTX 1080 has a year to ripen it's driver whereas
You also need to consider and
weigh
in that the GTX 1080 has had
a year to ripen it's driver whereas.
Arbie
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Posted on: 09/08/2017 03:28 PM
Thanks for the huge amount of work and analysis! This was really interesting, especially the AoTS results (my game). I think you've shown Vega 64's real place in the performance spectrum more clearly than did previous reviews. You make a good point on driver maturity... we can hope that AMD will be able to improve some things out over time. But for me, power dissipation is still the biggest negative on Vega which I would otherwise be planning to buy, even though it consistently trails the 1080.
Thanks for the huge amount of work and analysis! This was really interesting, especially the AoTS results (my game). I think you've shown Vega 64's real place in the performance spectrum more clearly than did previous reviews. You make a good point on driver maturity... we can hope that AMD will be able to improve some things out over time. But for me, power dissipation is still the biggest negative on Vega which I would otherwise be planning to buy, even though it consistently trails the 1080.
fantaskarsef
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Posted on: 09/08/2017 04:05 PM
Thanks for the read HH, much appreciated.
Thanks for the read HH, much appreciated.
Loophole35
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Posted on: 09/08/2017 04:18 PM
Good to see Vega is giving a fairly polished experience this early on.
Good to see Vega is giving a fairly polished experience this early on.
RzrTrek
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Posted on: 09/08/2017 06:18 PM
I don't believe in miracles and AMD has yet to show me one.
Good to see Vega is giving a fairly polished experience this early on.
I don't believe in miracles and AMD has yet to show me one.
Loophole35
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Posted on: 09/08/2017 07:23 PM
If you would read the article and know what you are looking at you would see that there are no real frame pacing issues (with the exception of GTA5) on Vega. That is a positive on a mostly lackluster release. It means AMD can focus on trying to get more performance from drivers rather than fixing the user experience.
I don't believe in miracles and AMD has yet to show me one.
If you would read the article and know what you are looking at you would see that there are no real frame pacing issues (with the exception of GTA5) on Vega. That is a positive on a mostly lackluster release. It means AMD can focus on trying to get more performance from drivers rather than fixing the user experience.
airbud7
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Posted on: 09/08/2017 07:30 PM
True Loop^......I've seen games unplayable and a simple driver update gets 60+ fps
True Loop^......I've seen games unplayable and a simple driver update gets 60+ fps
DLD
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Posted on: 09/08/2017 09:14 PM
Page number 9 - are the colors, designating the cards (green/red) wrongly applied on the first (upper) pic (green for Vega, red for NV)?
edit: it's been corrected, thanx...
Page number 9 - are the colors, designating the cards (green/red) wrongly applied on the first (upper) pic (green for Vega, red for NV)?
edit: it's been corrected, thanx...
Hilbert Hagedoorn
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Posted on: 09/08/2017 10:22 PM
Page number 9 - are the colors, designating the cards (green/red) wrongly applied on the first (upper) pic (green for Vega, red for NV)?
edit: it's been corrected, thanx...
Nope I did not correct anything, and yes it looks normal
Page number 9 - are the colors, designating the cards (green/red) wrongly applied on the first (upper) pic (green for Vega, red for NV)?
edit: it's been corrected, thanx...
Nope I did not correct anything, and yes it looks normal
DLD
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Posted on: 09/09/2017 04:51 PM
Might have been due to too much gaming these days
...But I swear I thought I saw a green line next to AMD card and a red one next to a 1080. VERY interesting review - thank you Hilbert, you're doing a GREAT job!
Might have been due to too much gaming these days
...But I swear I thought I saw a green line next to AMD card and a red one next to a 1080. VERY interesting review - thank you Hilbert, you're doing a GREAT job!
Singleton99
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Posted on: 09/09/2017 07:07 PM
Thanks HH for the explanation of this article/review (I've learnt something new today) , this will go a long way in understanding future FCAT results ,
Thanks HH for the explanation of this article/review (I've learnt something new today) , this will go a long way in understanding future FCAT results ,
Fox2232
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Posted on: 09/09/2017 09:29 PM
That GTA 5 stufff. I'd say: "Mod vBIOS to increase all power limits by 10%, and test again."
Because I think that's likely card trying to stay within certain power consumption limits on average. And is just on the edge of minor clock-down.
That GTA 5 stufff. I'd say: "Mod vBIOS to increase all power limits by 10%, and test again."
Because I think that's likely card trying to stay within certain power consumption limits on average. And is just on the edge of minor clock-down.
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Posted on: 09/10/2017 07:30 AM
Id ignore this one.
Most of his post are pretty off putting and whiney or complaing. Almost like AMD kicked his cat.
If you would read the article and know what you are looking at you would see that there are no real frame pacing issues (with the exception of GTA5) on Vega. That is a positive on a mostly lackluster release. It means AMD can focus on trying to get more performance from drivers rather than fixing the user experience.
Id ignore this one.
Most of his post are pretty off putting and whiney or complaing. Almost like AMD kicked his cat.
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Interesting, Prey is showing some oddities but it seems to be pretty smooth overall, wonder how DOOM would look like seeing how it has the option to use Vulkan.
Expected Deus Ex Mankind Divided to act up more too in those results, the extra VRAM probably helps and for GTA V I guess it's down to the streaming system?
Dishonored 2 could be of interest too but I don't know how well AMD is doing overall for that game, might be a bit skewed although Resident Evil 7 looks pretty smooth in these FCAT results and Nvidia has a pretty good advantage for that game so maybe not?
Anyways, nice to see some tests for Vega and frame consistency.