Thats your opinion and I'm entitled to mine bud.

Sidebarring here; just because someone has an opinion does not mean it can be taken as fact, or is generally correct. And that's not my opinion, that's just the truth. OT: Increasing the price of an operating system to normal levels is not criminal, regardless of the market response. If you buy a new computer today, Windows 8 is going to on it and the manufacturer would have paid an OEM price for it. If you already have a computer, you already have an operating system. Either way; the effect on the majority is nothing.

Well, I bought a copy when it was on sale at the egg for $30 a while back. I mostly wanted it so that I could wring some more life out of a decade old XP license I have in the drawer. I have yet to install it, but I'm sure glad I didn't wait to make my purchase. :/

rofl more reason for me to stay away.

That will endear people towards a prototype sold as a finished product 😀

Sidebarring here; just because someone has an opinion does not mean it can be taken as fact, or is generally correct. And that's not my opinion, that's just the truth. OT: Increasing the price of an operating system to normal levels is not criminal, regardless of the market response. If you buy a new computer today, Windows 8 is going to on it and the manufacturer would have paid an OEM price for it. If you already have a computer, you already have an operating system. Either way; the effect on the majority is nothing.

I never professed my opinion as the truth or fact. Increasing the price is up to MS. It certainly made quite a few here buy more copies by the looks of things. So well done to MS for that. Every time I buy a new PC the only operating system on it is the one I want. Agree with your final point.

LOLOLOL CELL PHONE OS AMIRITE EVERYONE?! TABLET TABLET RABBLE RABBLE. Hilbert, can you source that "poor adoption" comment in your title? Everything I've seen shows Windows 8 somewhere around or slightly behind Windows 7. The % of computers running is not a valid comparison, unless you also have the total number of computers in each case. I don't really know that 40 million copies in a month is bad.

LOLOLOL CELL PHONE OS AMIRITE EVERYONE?! TABLET TABLET RABBLE RABBLE.

no men, u are wrong. if u actully use the OS for moer than 2 minute u will see that u ar wrong :bang:

no men, u are wrong. if u actully use the OS for moer than 2 minute u will see that u ar wrong :bang:

Yeah it's totally TABLET PC. Jelly Belly 4.1... or sumtin' PROOF: [spoiler] http://www.abload.de/img/ioscquwj.png[/spoiler]

Yeah it's totally TABLET PC. Jelly Belly 4.1... or sumtin' PROOF: [spoiler] http://www.abload.de/img/ioscquwj.png[/spoiler]

That's the most dumb, idiotic "proof" i've ever seen. Do you even know what is the purpose of that "Tablet PC"? There's no emoticon that can explain what face i'm making now.... And judging from your writing, i hope you're 16 or "sumtin'" By the way this is also present on windows 7... just saying, but since you're clearly a troll, i will just put my hand on my face and feel bad for you.

So the key I got from my university yesterday can be sold for $100+ on ebay? 😀

So the key I got from my university yesterday can be sold for $100+ on ebay? 😀

That would be in direct violation of the MSDNAA license and your school and Microsoft can/may terminate your access to any Microsoft licenses by doing so. deltatux

Me too. I bought a copy for myself, and then another one for my GF’s laptop. Not so sure the price increase is a good idea though, while Windows8 is certainly better than 7 once you learn how to use it, it’s not anywhere near enough of an upgrade to pay anymore than the £25 ($40) that it is right now.

And if you rely heavily on Bluetooth...it's really not worth the $40USD.... I can't get any of my Bluetooth adapters to work.

Yeah it's totally TABLET PC. Jelly Belly 4.1... or sumtin' PROOF: [spoiler] http://www.abload.de/img/ioscquwj.png[/spoiler]

That "tablet PC" section has existed in Windows since the mid-90s....

So this MS person states "seeing good momentum" and that somehow gets turned into "poor adoption rate"?. -- Here's the actual article for people who just read the Guru3d bit. http://blogs.windows.com/windows/b/bloggingwindows/archive/2013/01/18/update-on-windows-8-pricing.aspx

We are seeing good momentum with Windows 8 today. When upgrading from Windows 7, Windows 8 has a lot to offer including a beautiful new Start screen with live tiles, plus the familiar desktop and faster startup and longer battery life. Today I’d like to share the pricing details for the Windows 8 upgrade editions that will begin in February. I’d also remind you to take advantage of the great upgrade offer which lasts until January 31st 2013. Windows 8 upgrade editions will be priced as follows starting in February: The Windows 8 Pro upgrade edition will be available online and at retail for $199.99 MSRP (U.S.). The Windows 8 upgrade edition will be available online and at retail for $119.99 MSRP (U.S.). The Windows 8 Pro Pack will cost $99.99 MSRP (U.S.). The Windows 8 Media Center Pack will cost $9.99 MSRP (U.S.). But we have our promotional offer available until January 31st 2013, you can upgrade to Windows 8 Pro for just $39.99 ERP* (U.S.) via Windows.com using the Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant or pick up a DVD copy at a local retailer for just $69.99 ERP* (U.S.). If you bought an eligible Windows 7 PC between June 2nd and January 31st, 2013 – be sure to register for the Windows Upgrade Offer and upgrade to Windows 8 Pro for only $14.99 ERP*** (U.S.). If you upgrade to the Windows 8 edition or buy a PC with the Windows 8 edition pre-installed and want to move to the Windows 8 Pro edition– you can purchase the Windows 8 Pro Pack (previously known as Windows Anytime Upgrade) directly within Windows 8 by going to the Start screen and typing “Add Features to Windows 8” and at participating retailers for $69.99 MSRP (U.S.) until January 31st. If are running Windows 8 Pro and want Windows Media Center and DVD playback, you can add the Windows 8 Media Center Pack for free until January 31st**. If you are building your own PC from scratch, looking to run Windows 8 in a Virtual Machine (VM), or looking to run Windows 8 on a second hard drive partition – you will want to purchase the Windows 8 edition or Windows 8 Pro edition OEM product known as “System Builder”. You can find these products online at local retailers. For questions regarding upgrade paths for Windows 8, see this article on TechNet. For more information on upgrading to Windows 8, I suggest checking out this page on Windows.com as it is a great resource for information on upgrading. And if you have any issues regarding your upgrade experience or technical questions about upgrading then I suggest visiting the Windows 8 Microsoft Community forum and posting your questions there. *Offers limited to five upgrade licenses per customer. To install the Windows 8 Pro upgrade, customers must be running Windows XP SP3, Windows Vista, or Windows 7. The prices displayed are estimated retail price and the transaction may be completed in a different currency. The actual price of the offer will vary by region since it is dependent on a variety of specific factors including exchange rate, local taxes, duties, fees, local market conditions, other pricing considerations, and may vary by each independent reseller. The actual price you pay may be more than the advertised price due to these additional factors. Shipping and handling charges may apply to packaged DVD product. **When moving from the Windows 8 edition to Windows 8 Pro via the Windows 8 Pro Pack – you receive the Windows 8 Media Center Pack and won’t need to install it separately. *** The last day to register for the Windows Upgrade Offer is February 28th, 2013.

I don't understand the hate, it's just a freaking menu, which you can skip with a registry tweak.

Depending upon user preference there's no way to set up W8 in such a way as to be human-usable, ie. as I have my W7 setup. If you happen to prefer nested menus and hierarchies over randomly colored squares, or heaven forbid - find text more readable than graphics, you won't be satisfied with W8. Add to that your listed upsides being entirely irrelevant for my own use and there's a distinct lack of incentive to "upgrade". I don't understand the people that don't understand the hate, as its obvious you don't use your computers in a remotely similar way to those that dislike W8. In fact I understand defending W8 even less, unless you have a personal stake in the OS there seems to be no reason to do so. People raging about things they dislike is business as usual, people defending stuff they have no obvious relation to is just weird though. Or astroturfing.

Depending upon user preference there's no way to set up W8 in such a way as to be human-usable, ie. as I have my W7 setup. If you happen to prefer nested menus and hierarchies over randomly colored squares, or heaven forbid - find text more readable than graphics, you won't be satisfied with W8. Add to that your listed upsides being entirely irrelevant for my own use and there's a distinct lack of incentive to "upgrade". I don't understand the people that don't understand the hate, as its obvious you don't use your computers in a remotely similar way to those that dislike W8. In fact I understand defending W8 even less, unless you have a personal stake in the OS there seems to be no reason to do so. People raging about things they dislike is business as usual, people defending stuff they have no obvious relation to is just weird though. Or astroturfing.

That sounds a lot like the "My opinion is right and your opinion is wrong, because I said so" stance right there.... The UI is purely a matter of taste. If you can't comprehend that, you shouldn't be involved in such discussions. Personally, nested menus just piss me off.....

That "tablet PC" section has existed in Windows since the mid-90s....

That's why it looked faintly familiar :bang:

Depending upon user preference there's no way to set up W8 in such a way as to be human-usable, ie. as I have my W7 setup. If you happen to prefer nested menus and hierarchies over randomly colored squares, or heaven forbid - find text more readable than graphics, you won't be satisfied with W8. Add to that your listed upsides being entirely irrelevant for my own use and there's a distinct lack of incentive to "upgrade". I don't understand the people that don't understand the hate, as its obvious you don't use your computers in a remotely similar way to those that dislike W8. In fact I understand defending W8 even less, unless you have a personal stake in the OS there seems to be no reason to do so. People raging about things they dislike is business as usual, people defending stuff they have no obvious relation to is just weird though. Or astroturfing.

I suppose... which then BTW makes you either weirdo, or a guy having stake in Windows 7 😀

Depending upon user preference there's no way to set up W8 in such a way as to be human-usable, ie. as I have my W7 setup. If you happen to prefer nested menus and hierarchies over randomly colored squares, or heaven forbid - find text more readable than graphics, you won't be satisfied with W8. Add to that your listed upsides being entirely irrelevant for my own use and there's a distinct lack of incentive to "upgrade". I don't understand the people that don't understand the hate, as its obvious you don't use your computers in a remotely similar way to those that dislike W8. In fact I understand defending W8 even less, unless you have a personal stake in the OS there seems to be no reason to do so. People raging about things they dislike is business as usual, people defending stuff they have no obvious relation to is just weird though. Or astroturfing.

I don't care about the colored squares and the "nested" menus can be personalized and i don't even use the metro crap, actually on every reboot it goes straight to the desktop. The most program that i use are pinned on my taskbar, so i don't even need a start button or crappy metro start menu. The few others which i rarely use, are pinned to the start menu which i even more rarely access. So, other than that, Windows 8 is superior in every way to Windows 7 and this is a fact if we talk about features and not personal taste. Just my opinion..and the hate - i understand it, cause actually it is like the XP hate, the Vista hate and even the 7 hate in the beginning. Remember that XP hate? It was huuuuuge, all that colored stuff....tooo much. Then Vista came and more colored stuff, what a crap and all those driver issues (personally never had one...). Now there's 8 and people are still talking about colors. Next thing we know, in few years, windows 8 would be classic, like a Tupac album 😀 I forgot 7, i don't remember what exactly was the hate, but i remember the hate. I think it was the "too soon a new os, i already paid for Vista" or something....people swearing they would never upgrade....

The general issue for a lot people was Windows 7 was/is basically Vista SP3 but made to look slightly different (even some reviews stated it back then). It was released as Windows 7 because Vista had gotten a bad rep due to how it was released, and because it never recovered despite getting loads better via better driver support and updates (Vista SP2 is a fantastic OS) it was easier to just rename it Windows 7, add a few things here and there and just start over without the bad rep.

Windows 8 pricing Increased per February 1

http://i.imgur.com/BAdTXhV.jpg

So basically people are hating on windows 8 just because of the start screen, cause honestly i can't think of anything else. Not liking the start menu (call it Metro) aside, which i can understand, windows 8 is just a better windows 7. - faster boot. - native usb 3.0 support - native .iso support (no more daemon tools) - better task manager - better windows explorer, a lot better and customizable if you ask me... - the sync option with a microsoft account to sync your own personalized settings is great - the search it's way better displayed and organized - repair functions - less resources hungry (personally i see less ram usage). I don't understand the hate, it's just a freaking menu, which you can skip with a registry tweak. Not to mention, that clicking the left low corner is faster than clicking on the start button (if you don't like to press the windows button instead), cause you don't even need to look at it. The start menu pops out instantly. I hate the Metro crap too, but it doesn't bother my desktop experience at all. If you're a Vista user, or even worse a XP one, windows 8 is a must for that price. By the way, with the upgrade you can also do a clean install.

-Faster boot time - Eh, I don't notice a difference loading Windows 7 on my old and slow Vertex 2 versus my newer and faster Samsung 830. Perhaps a fraction of a second difference and given I never reboot unless forced, a rather irrelevant issue in the first place. -Native USB 3.0 - Unless you're using a NEC controller which then requires drivers that will occasionally decide to switch back to USB 2.0 speeds. Perhaps Intel and AMD controllers have better support, but with my NEC controller I have the same buggy experience in Windows 8 as in 7. -Native ISO is nice but it also is less featured than Daemon tools and covers fewer image formats. So, yeah, I still have Daemon tools installed. -Task manager is most definitely one of the best changes in Windows 8, no argument there. -Windows Explorer using ribbon is nice I suppose. I'm mostly indifferent to it though I do miss the ability to see file information on the bottom like in Vista/7. Perhaps there's a way to regain that functionality but I've not found it and haven't bothered researching as of yet. -Yet another bloody account to keep track of in addition to being an account that I didn't even want. I suppose it's nicer if you have multiple mobile products from Microsoft but, at least in my case, the only Microsoft products I use are on my desktop. -Search is better but I tend not to use search because I have my files organized and I know where they are. Still, nice when one needs to find all of those friggin' thumbs.db files that still lurk around from the days of XP. -Repair has yet to work on my machine whenever it bluescreens on boot, something it never did under 7. Rather interesting considering it's the same drivers in Windows 8 as were used under 7. When it does that repair comes up but each time has said it could not repair. Thankfully, rebooting solves the issues, whatever they are. -Finally, I bought 16 GB of RAM for $80. If the system uses 500 MB more under 7 I don't honestly notice it at this point. Regardless, there's no penalty nor benefit either way it seems as performance between 7 and 8 is a wash. And, yeah, the Start screen is terrible. Really, it's one of the worst developments in Windows since Bob. In fact, I daresay it's worse as at least Bob was a niche product targeting the potential computer illiterate market. Windows 8's Start screen has been nailed on an otherwise good operating system and gives it a schizophrenic personality the likes of Dr. Jekyll would have difficulty competing against. And, the worst part is that the Metro styling vomited all over the OS. The flat colors, harsh angles, and often wrenching color combinations unless you choose a boring grey theme that while uninspiring at least doesn't assault the eyes are all just awful. Honestly, Aero was the best UI Microsoft ever developed. It could be flashy, but it could also be subtle. You could choose just how much transparency you wanted, and things as simple as rounded corners made it just all the more pleasant to use as it simply wasn't as harsh as Windows 8. I openly admit I'm biased against Metro. When WP7 came out and I saw it I thought it was bad looking then. But over time, and after having seen it develop and evolve I can safely say my opinion has changed on that. I now find it abysmal. Hideous in fact. It's parallelogram overload. Everything is a square or rectangle in Metro. It makes looking at it completely overwhelming as it is just a massive jumble of tiles. It reminds me of looking at a large bathroom filled with nothing but 1" square tiles, and every tile is some gaudy, neon color arranged in no discernible pattern. Oh, and some of the tiles randomly change color. And none of that even gets into how the interface is, well, interfaced with. All of these hidden corners and gestures are just a jumble and largely require looking up, like some sort of secret handshake to get your OS to do what previous versions put out in the open. Windows 8 is the first version of Windows that I've used where I had to specifically look up the necessary mouse 'gestures' to find out the correct 'hot' points to make menus appear. With every version of Windows prior, one could simply click the button, icon, or text link to do whatever it was one wished to do. Now I need to memorize these secret handshakes and signals like I'm trying to communicate with an umpire just to get to simple things. Or at least, I would if I didn't have Classic Shell to return the functionality and usability that I had prior. And, I can easily, easily understand people who refuse Windows 8 on those grounds. Why should they have to resort to third party tools in order to bring logic and order back to an operating system that had been moving in one direction that then suddenly veered off course into the land of mystery and chaos where half the train continues in the old direction and the other half is headed off of a cliff into oblivion. If Windows 8 were a person it would be labeled as psychotic and neurotic, full of inner conflict and outer discord. Windows 8 would be the embodiment of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.