Undervolting the Yeston GeForce RTX 4070 Ti

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Nice article!, while that card can run stock with room to spare, u got a free upgrade with less strain and a super silent zen mode for free. I have been in the opposite situation, had the worst quality card, a 5700xt mech OC from msi, lightweight cooler not fit for the job needed 3000rpm. From stock 1.2 volts i went to 970 mV for super stable and silent service for almost 4 years, fans went 500rpm lower. From the performance and stability point of view one of my best cards. Imagine going from a superb gigabyte aorus 580 with backplate copper cooler and energy supply stability test leds to the worst, being an enthusiast on third world countries is a risky endeavour.
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Lovely article. What I appreciate the most is the undervolting description. There are tons of vids on Youtube about that, but they use different approach to that. I did the same undervolt on my 3080 using the Youtube approach and than using the Guru way described in the article and the curves look different. Both are 825mv and 1800mhz on my 3080. I will do some testing. The fact that the keyboard shortcuts to profiles were mentioned in the article, will help me with that. Because previously I ALT+TAB from game to change to profile. Not anymore. Really appreciated, and IMHO undervolting is a key. Overclocking, not so much. U can see u can get 100% performance with 17% more effectivity from this 4070ti - and thats already a very effective card. My 3080 at 825mv is completely different experience than the factory overclocked beast it was - in term of noise, temperature and power usage. I went from 340 to 250w and thats a level of effectivity of a stock 4xxx series. Performance is the same within the margin of error. (example 68fps vs 70fps on fully loaded GPU)
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did not think i would see reviews of this card brand, kind shocking
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Thank you for doing an article like this and keeping it running g3d team!
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i used to have better results with Ampere than ADA which is very sensitive to undervolting. You cannot go so low as 0.800ish voltage on ADA since it will lose performance no matter you do, as this review had demonstrate, you can still UV an ADA GPU but it is not worth if you play a lot of games, because one or other will crash to desktop, specially in AAA modern games with high RT and scaling methods.
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Nekrosleezer:

i used to have better results with Ampere than ADA which is very sensitive to undervolting. You cannot go so low as 0.800ish voltage on ADA since it will lose performance no matter you do, as this review had demonstrate, you can still UV an ADA GPU but it is not worth if you play a lot of games, because one or other will crash to desktop, specially in AAA modern games with high RT and scaling methods.
Just stick to Power Limit for RTX 4000 series, same result as undervolting but without the headache of stability.
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TheDeeGee:

Just stick to Power Limit for RTX 4000 series, same result as undervolting but without the headache of stability.
I dont undervolt or power limit my card anymore, ADA is the first card since maxwell which works well out of the box. With 260W avg and temps around 60° is perfect to me considering the performance.
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Nice review Boss!....So Yeston is a legitimate brand? Like: PNY/Gigabyte/ASRock/MSI/exc...?
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I just tried this on my 3090 and it won't run anywhere near max boost at a reasonably low voltage.
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TheDeeGee:

Just stick to Power Limit for RTX 4000 series, same result as undervolting but without the headache of stability.
That's not true. In my case, I can increase boost clock AND reduce power use by undervolting Vs the stock card. Reducing the power limit of an otherwise stock card will reduce performance in many scenarios.
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HybOj:

Lovely article. What I appreciate the most is the undervolting description. There are tons of vids on Youtube about that, but they use different approach to that. I did the same undervolt on my 3080 using the Youtube approach and than using the Guru way described in the article and the curves look different. Both are 825mv and 1800mhz on my 3080. I will do some testing. The fact that the keyboard shortcuts to profiles were mentioned in the article, will help me with that. Because previously I ALT+TAB from game to change to profile. Not anymore. Really appreciated, and IMHO undervolting is a key. Overclocking, not so much. U can see u can get 100% performance with 17% more effectivity from this 4070ti - and thats already a very effective card. My 3080 at 825mv is completely different experience than the factory overclocked beast it was - in term of noise, temperature and power usage. I went from 340 to 250w and thats a level of effectivity of a stock 4xxx series. Performance is the same within the margin of error. (example 68fps vs 70fps on fully loaded GPU)
In my experience, there's not much point in undervolting as long as your GPU is staying cool enough & is not too loud & as long as you're not really wanting to save electricity. If you do traditional overclocking you're effectively undervolting the GPU anyway, because as you raise up the frequency (say you run a +200Mhz core offset overclock), then that will mean you'll end up running at a lower voltage anyway, particularly if you're bouncing off the Power Limit - if you're not bouncing off the Power Limit though and your card is not power limited then you won't be running at a lower voltage when doing your traditional +200Mhz offset type overclocking. But whichever, when you're overclocking you're already making the GPU run more efficiently because you're optimising the frequency for each voltage point. I instead believe in raising the power limit and running the biggest offset overclock you can get away with, as long as the GPU is cool enough and quiet enough. GPUs aren't really thermally limited nowadays as long as your case cooling is good, that's my experience. I'm against raising the voltage offset though, I think that's detrimental for the available power budget and at best would give you only small gains or instead make performance worse due to hitting power limit sooner.
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southamptonfc:

That's not true. In my case, I can increase boost clock AND reduce power use by undervolting Vs the stock card. Reducing the power limit of an otherwise stock card will reduce performance in many scenarios.
Very slightly if you find the sweet spot. 75% power limit and 0.960v only 5% perf loss in my case.
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is there any kind of web store/shop where one can buy Yeston GPU from the EU?? I can't find one...
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Robbo9999:

In my experience, there's not much point in undervolting as long as your GPU is staying cool enough & is not too loud & as long as you're not really wanting to save electricity. .
No GPU is cool enough, silent enough and everybody should aim to save electricity. Also, unless u live in antarctica, you want card to be cool just because it rises a temp of your room. I can go from 340 to 250w by a press of a key (which is automated at windows start) without loosing a frame. Just tested it in cyberpunk. Exactly same FPS, stock is 260w and UV is 180w. Thats a significant difference. Leaving that efectivity on the table makes zero sense. Its a difference of a generation. It also makes your HW last longer, lower currents are good for your HW, lower temps as well. It saves not only the GPU, but ofc a Power Supply, and all components near that GPU are cooler as well, as the GPU is not dropping so much heat in the case. But sure, if u think theres no point to that, I will leave u at that, everybody can have a opinion. PS: Your remarks of making GPU more effective by overclocking are most certainly not correct.
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HybOj:

It also makes your HW last longer, lower currents are good for your HW, lower temps as well. It saves not only the GPU, but ofc a Power Supply, and all components near that GPU are cooler as well, as the GPU is not dropping so much heat in the case. But sure, if u think theres no point to that, I will leave u at that, everybody can have a opinion.
Also you can rest more easily knowing your 12vhpwr connector less likely to melt. 😀
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southamptonfc:

That's not true. In my case, I can increase boost clock AND reduce power use by undervolting Vs the stock card. Reducing the power limit of an otherwise stock card will reduce performance in many scenarios.
5% FPS drop for 90 Watt reduction is a nice trade-off on my end.
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Nice article but I for one can't unsee how strange the design is around the fans. Having huge pieces of plastic in front of the fans hammers the airflow for sure.
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TheDeeGee:

5% FPS drop for 90 Watt reduction is a nice trade-off on my end.
5% FPS increase for 50w reduction works better for me.
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HybOj:

No GPU is cool enough, silent enough and everybody should aim to save electricity. Also, unless u live in antarctica, you want card to be cool just because it rises a temp of your room. I can go from 340 to 250w by a press of a key (which is automated at windows start) without loosing a frame. Just tested it in cyberpunk. Exactly same FPS, stock is 260w and UV is 180w. Thats a significant difference. Leaving that efectivity on the table makes zero sense. Its a difference of a generation. It also makes your HW last longer, lower currents are good for your HW, lower temps as well. It saves not only the GPU, but ofc a Power Supply, and all components near that GPU are cooler as well, as the GPU is not dropping so much heat in the case. But sure, if u think theres no point to that, I will leave u at that, everybody can have a opinion. PS: Your remarks of making GPU more effective by overclocking are most certainly not correct.
I disagree with your first sentence - of course a GPU can be cool enough & silent enough, and you don't have to save electricity if you don't want to or need to & especially if you don't want somewhat diminished performance vs maximised performance. I disagree with your last sentence too, the PS you did - of course overclocking the GPU makes it more efficient - when you use a frequency offset for example of +200Mhz you're raising the frequency level for each voltage point on the curve, therefore by definition you're getting more performance at each voltage point and further by definition that means you're getting increased performance per watt. The other point you made about making hardware last longer is generally irrelevant too as hardware failure is not a common reason for needing to upgrade to a new component - technical obsolescence is the most common reason (ie it's too slow and you need something faster, which again is not helped if you're not maximising the performance of your existing GPU in the first place). If you do want to save money by using less electricity then I think the best thing to do is do your standard offset overclocking, but also at the same time lower the power limit of the GPU, this way you're optimising the frequency at each voltage point (with the offset overclock), but you're also limiting the overall power limit which will push the GPU further down the voltage curve too, so will make it use a lower voltage anyway. The undervolting technique in this article does something similar ultimately but it's not strictly controlling the max wattage of the GPU, instead it's just stipulating the max voltage point that can be used, so lowering the power limit is the more sure fire way of making sure you don't use more than X watts if you want to save electricity, and of course you'd combine that with offset overclocking like I mentioned at the start of this paragraph to make the frequency to voltage relationship more efficient.