Samsung: More than half of the TVs in 2019 will be 8K Ultra HD

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Jagman:

Agree with all the comments above 😱 Apart from WhiteLightnings, sorry mate 🙂
No worries, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Its a shame to read some countries do not have 1080 as a standard even.
warlord:

For our info. Average global internet speed cannot handle 8K content video 50-60fps but only 25-30fps. GPUs are unable to handle ultra details at 8k with console like 30fps let alone breaking 60fps. Those TVs are for those who can drop money on the road or want bragging rights.
I think with the right codec they might handle it, H265 is already quite a good one. I dont know which one Netflix uses, but ive watched 4K HDR ones last year.
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Well, there will be lots of screen unsold, reason to blame economic crysis again, not own stupidity... Most EU countries struggles with FHD now, still like 70%+ content is in SD, only source of 4k is Netflix/Prime/YT, so...good luck with getting 8k anytime soon...
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Samsung bull...I'm mostly looking SD; FHD is scarce and 4k just a dream (?) FHD will be transmitted fully here 2020 and no idea about 4k.
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Well then.... I know now there will be some content in five years when i do decide to upgrade these televisions again. Wow Samsung.....seems like you're a bit to "on top" of it for some people around here.
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zipper:

Samsung bull...I'm mostly looking SD; FHD is scarce and 4k just a dream (?) FHD will be transmitted fully here 2020 and no idea about 4k.
How about them cable streams that can't even keep up in said HD let alone 1080p at that. I think some forget that HD is 720 and 1080i is 30fps while 1080p is 60fps. No cable broadcast I have ever seen albeit buffered off of a dvr or not has been smooth and or visibly free of any artifacts all together. Especially on sports channels when them crowds come into the picture.... Mega blocks of compression breakup. Yeah good luck with the cramming of 5G down everyone's throat Samsung...
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Awesome, now I can watch that 480p/720p content on an 8k display!
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I think I would just rather have a micro LED or affordable OLED please. No more pixels for me, thanks. I'm all stocked up.
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Great to see the resolution been pushed forward but it will take many years before 8k content is a reality for most of the streaming services , cable , etc... give it 5~10 years then most likely there will be some content at 8k available ( maybe 😉 ). I'm still enjoying my Samsung KS8000 4k UHD HDR 65" no need for me to upgrade for many years to come.
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So far, I hardly find a justification to bump up from 1080p for watching videos and movies. The difference is noticeable, but not enough for me to care, especially while sitting at a distance. Except for nature documentaries or special-edition movies, I think 4K is about as high as mass media is really going to go for over a decade. When DVD and HD videos first came out, yes, they were very expensive to get into, but you didn't need an exceptionally powerful system to play them. Low-end hardware could handle those video formats; most of what you were paying for was licensing and the research that went into it. But as resolutions go up, the data and processing power goes up exponentially. 4K is expensive to get into now because it's demanding on processing power and network bandwidth. 4K has already been around for many years and it still seems to be less popular than full HD. And this is just movies we're talking about here - games seem even more demanding. Besides, since optical discs are being phased out with so much of the world is still suck on mediocre internet speeds, 4K videos are currently so compressed that you're better off with 1080p anyway. It's also worth pointing out that unlike DVDs and HD-BDs, there's not much headroom left for improvement. Moore's Law is pretty much dead and affordable networks are slow to upgrade. My next display is going to be 4K and I hope to get one this year if a reasonably-priced GPU can handle it. Really, the only reason I want 4K is for games where I need to see far in the distance. 1080p just isn't good enough for that.
RzrTrek:

I'm sorry to inform Samsung's investors, but I don't have a tv at home and will never buy one; yet alone one of your overpriced fake HDR monitors.
TVs make for decent PC displays at lower prices, especially if you don't get a "smart" one (since those tend to hurt response time). Despite the fact I haven't watched TV at home in about 15 years, I've been using TVs for my main PC display for a while.
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Samsung is doing whatever it can to compete with OLED's until they have comparable technology. However I will take actual picture quality over everything else so I just don't think these 8K TV's will be in the same ballpark as OLED.
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I care far less about 8k than I give about proper black-levels, they have been atrocious for years. 4k also looks fantastic enough if it is not compressed the crap out of.. I also would prefer 60fps to be the norm before 8k.
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chispy:

Great to see the resolution been pushed forward but it will take many years before 8k content is a reality for most of the streaming services , cable , etc... give it 5~10 years then most likely there will be some content at 8k available ( maybe 😉 ). I'm still enjoying my Samsung KS8000 4k UHD HDR 65" no need for me to upgrade for many years to come.
I agree this all of this, but 5-10 years we will have 16k and 20k TVs if not high resolutions .... haha.
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Embra:

I agree this all of this, but 5-10 years we will have 16k and 20k TVs if not high resolutions .... haha.
Having them available is one thing. Whether or not they'll actually be commonly found with commonly available media is another. 4K is the beginning of diminishing returns, where going any higher than that doesn't yield enough of a visual difference (in most scenarios) and therefore isn't worth the cost and compute power needed. I only see 8K+ being useful in niche cases, like VR, surround-view displays, and ultra-large form factors.
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I don't understand the complaining about 8K. As other have said, it's just a gimmick, that will eventually become mainstream in a couple of years. If you don't push the market with innovation, nothing will change. It's not like Samsung has to wait for televisions to broadcast in 8K and then they will release the 8k TV. No, it's just the opposite. And with this new "gimmick", other high end features are now found in the lower range TVs. For instance I'm seeing full array in the Quantum dots 7 series and 120 hz panels. So now we'll pay less for more. Also that Q60 43" seems to be my futures monitor, if it hits at least 800 nits, as I don't care that it's edge lit anyway. Overall, great news from Samsung. I can't wait to see Sony's new lineup.
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fantaskarsef:

First: "Screens have to come first." While basically true, they'd wish everybody wants to drop a few k$/€ on a screen... Second: "What do I watch on it?" Exactly this also, @Netherwind and @gopher04 . TV I get is still 720p (HDready from 10 years ago), only the internet gives me anything above it right now... with 4K netflix being the highest resolution I could imagine using, and I don't even have a 4K TV right now, let alone needing 8K Third: These screens are simply too large for me. I neither have the room on the wall nor the depth of a living room to properly use those huge screens they introduce, TVs getting bigger and bigger isn't really helping, my living space does not increase in the same relation. Anything above 52" is a waste in my living room anyway. Fourth: "...and 8k content will follow as soon as 5g networks in South Korea and the United States become a reality." This is utter rubbish once more. They market 5G networks as the holy grail of internet usage, although we have more than enough bandwidth with wired connections, there's still neither 8K content nor screens. If bandwidth would be an issue, it would not have been one in the past either, and if it depends on mobile network bandwidth, I'd like to see them use 8K TVs in the subway. Fitfth: "With microled technology, as with oled TVs..." Selling burn in screens... I avoided plasma TVs for that reason 10 years ago, I won't give in to such a substantially flawed technology this time either. All in all I call BS, idiocracy in the tech world. Like others, I hope they don't meet their sales expectations of 8K TVs and somebody responsible for this gets a slap on the hands (because much more won't happen).
I've had a plasma tv for 7 years and burn in has never been a problem. 8k around here won't be a thing for quite sometime with pretty much all broadcast tv is still 720p so other than some specialty content on the internet I don't see it changing for years.
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Nice. Bring on the 8K Master Race! Of course content will be very limited but it paves the way for the future. Hopefully this will trickle down to the PC as well and we can gradually move on from 4K (I can still see pixels in games so more pixels are definitely welcome). Now, if only Nvidia would put their focus on creating a much faster traditional rendering GPU... (instead of the RTX gimmick that takes up precious die space).
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Error8:

I don't understand the complaining about 8K. As other have said, it's just a gimmick, that will eventually become mainstream in a couple of years. If you don't push the market with innovation, nothing will change. It's not like Samsung has to wait for televisions to broadcast in 8K and then they will release the 8k TV. No, it's just the opposite.
4K is just barely hitting mainstream now, and you expect a resolution that requires 4x the data points to be mainstream in 2 years? Sure, we'll see a decent amount of content, but I'll bet you a new 8K display that it won't be mainstream.
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In the UK, standard Freeview TV is mostly broadcast in 480p and 720p and those channels look f***ing awful when viewed on a 4K TV. Everything is pixelated to hell. There are only 12 channels on Freeview that are Full HD 1080 and even those don't look great on a 4K TV. If you try to watch the 480p, 720p, 1080p channels on an 8K TV, the image quality will be even worse. 4K footage on an 8K TV will be like watching 1080p footage on a 4K TV (not great). Nobody is putting out any 8K footage at the moment and probably won't for another 5 years yet. As someone who works in the tech industry, i'm seeing a lot of consumers finally making the plunge from Full HD to 4K. There's no frelling way that they're going to leap again to 8K in such a short amount of time. It took most of them 5 years to switch from Full HD to 4K. Even the PC community (who are generally ahead of the tech race) won't be able to play games in 8K above 35fps because the best gaming GPU on the market (RTX 2080 Ti) only manages around 70fps when running 4K games (on high/ultra presets).
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I haven't said 2 years, you said it. It might take longer. 8k is really great for very big screens, since as you go north of 55 inch, pixel density might be an issue, depends on the user. Probably 5 years ago, people using full HD TV didn't think that 4k will be mainstream in 2018 and look at us now.
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My eyes with Free AA (glasses removed) using 4K and loving it, don't think 8k will be any good for me as I will need to keep my glasses on as 8K wont need Free AA