An rx570 competitor two years later. 1050's ware crap gaming cards

Another way of creating a confusion-to-cheat common people. This appears to have become their corporate strategy. This is why I won't buy Nvidia cards in future.

Ahmad Bilal:

Another way of creating a confusion-to-cheat common people. This appears to have become their corporate strategy. This is why I won't buy Nvidia cards in future.

How so? It's a budget gpu.

Ahmad Bilal:

Another way of creating a confusion-to-cheat common people. This appears to have become their corporate strategy. This is why I won't buy Nvidia cards in future.

Right....there's a whole lot of nothing in your post just to produce a flame war. Good job!.........

Ahmad Bilal:

Another way of creating a confusion-to-cheat common people. This appears to have become their corporate strategy. This is why I won't buy Nvidia cards in future.

Yeah, because AMD is so transparent and "confusion free", selling RX 570 GPUs with RX 580 name and RX 560 with less cores than the original model.

kings:

Yeah, because AMD is so transparent, selling RX 570 cards with RX 580 name and RX 560 with less cores than the original model.

Atlast amd cards can be flashed. 560 can be unlocked, 470 to 570, 480 to 580, vega 56 can use 64 bios. Nvidia cards are locked more than nun on a sunday.

Undying:

An rx570 competitor two years later. 1050's ware crap gaming cards

And stronghead cheapies could crossfire them if needed for gaming purposes only in the future. If AMD keeps that taboo with Navi, it will be the biggest trolling against Nvidia forced upper level sales. Let's see. Until now, 1650, 1660, 1660ti, 2060, 2070, are no mgpu capable.

kings:

Yeah, because AMD is so transparent and "confusion free", selling RX 570 GPUs with RX 580 name and RX 560 with less cores than the original model.

Market specific models. May be of interest to you. Notice circumstances on one side of coin and fact that Box is marked with 2048SP text as other side of same coin.

warlord:

And stronghead cheapies could crossfire them if needed for gaming purposes only in the future. If AMD keeps that taboo with Navi, it will be the biggest trolling against Nvidia forced upper level sales. Let's see. Until now, 1650, 1660, 1660ti, 2060, 2070, are no mgpu capable.

Well mgpu really never caught on. I vowed to get another GPU pretty much always in the past, but when it came time to get a second GPU for the rig or buy a new single GPU I've just went with a new GPU. Also I don't see many people who are short on cash(people who buy low end gpus) buying two of them because a) it'd be smarter to get a faster single card b) by the time you want another low end gpu there's another gen out with more perf.

Fox2232:

Market specific models. May be of interest to you. Notice circumstances on one side of coin and fact that Box is marked with 2048SP text as other side of same coin.

The GTX 1060 5GB was also market specific and that did not stop some people from bashing Nvidia anyway. And the RX 560 is not a market specific model, it is sold almost everywhere without any indication on the name that is the lower version, at least on Europe (I think in China they called the card 560D, which is fine). Both companies have already had their dose of lack of transparency and naming schemes that caused confusion.

Undying:

Atlast amd cards can be flashed. 560 can be unlocked, 470 to 570, 480 to 580, vega 56 can use 64 bios. Nvidia cards are locked more than nun on a sunday.

They aren't locked, you can still extract original bios, mod it and then re inject it. the only sad thing is voltage, but if you really really need to mod over NVidia spec you can hard mod on the PCB (only for the 1% of the user that need it) btw it was RX460 that can be unlocked the RX560 have already everything activated, exept the RX560 lite (it is a RX460 🙂 ) and flash RX470 RX480 in RX570 RX580/RX590 bring almost nothing exept for Xfire with a more modern version on it's spec.

Undying:

Atlast amd cards can be flashed. 560 can be unlocked, 470 to 570, 480 to 580, vega 56 can use 64 bios. Nvidia cards are locked more than nun on a sunday.

I will say though, flashing bios that aren't made for your card is not usually something that's recommended at least, so locking it down or keeping it open really does not do much I guess I'm trying to say?

@vbetts and @Aura89 To be Clear, I don't mean to start a flame war, as I don't say AMD is free of it either. But comparatively in last 1-2 years, it has been better of the two. Come now, you are telling me just because the product fits into a certain market, its nomenclature/naming scheme is not going to present it better than it is? For someone who is able to read through the lines of the tech specs, it might now be much. But for those, who are not able to, it is not going to go down nice. Compare it to the recently launched 1660ti and name wise it appears to be just a slightly lower model, but it is not. A cut-throat salesman is bound to cheat a parent somewhere based on this. T A parent on a Christmas shopping trip is not out of his home to go sign a legal document. I'm just saying, that this should be at least as transparent as buying Xbox or Playstation. Besides AMD was on the brink of collapse. They had at least some reason to do such things. Such is not the case with Nvidia. And what have they done? They have absurdly increased the prices even further! It is their policies, not the numbers that make me shun them. PS: I may have a AMD GPU right now, but I do have Nvidia ones as well.

kings:

The GTX 1060 5GB was also market specific and that did not stop some people from bashing Nvidia anyway. And the RX 560 is not a market specific model, it is sold almost everywhere without any indication on the name that is the lower version, at least on Europe. Both companies have already had their dose of lack of transparency and naming schemes that caused confusion.

depend where in EU, we have "Lite" sticker on the "small" RX560, and in france and germany there is the 968 shaders on box spec (normal RX560 is 1024 shaders) It's only half lie if it is written in 10 😉

Ahmad Bilal:

@vbetts and @Aura89 To be Clear, I don't mean to start a flame war, as I don't say AMD is free of it either. But comparatively in last 1-2 years, it has been better of the two. Come now, you are telling me just because the product fits into a certain market, its nomenclature/naming scheme is not going to present it better than it is? For someone who is able to read through the lines of the tech specs, it might now be much. But for those, who are not able to, it is not going to go down nice. Compare it to the recently launched 1660ti and name wise it appears to be just a slightly lower model, but it is not. A cut-throat salesman is bound to cheat a parent somewhere based on this. AMD was on the brink of collapse. They had at least some reason to do such things. Such is not the case with Nvidia.

Again where is the substance to what you are saying? All i see you writing is a wall of text without anything actually in that text, it's a wall of nothing. What is wrong with this card, specifically? What are the specifics that you do not like? Is it because its not labeled a 2050? Is it because it has GDDR5? Is it the non-existant suggestion of pricing? What is it? Where is the SUBSTANCE? The only "substance" you have is saying its lower performing then the 1660ti....and..duh? Do you not know the performance difference between 1050/ti and 1060 3gb/6gb? How about 960 and 950? 760 and 750? There is a decent performance difference between them on all levels. The exact percentage difference between GPUs are always fluctuating, this is fact this is how it always has been. So again where is your issue?

Ahmad Bilal:

@vbetts and @Aura89 To be Clear, I don't mean to start a flame war, as I don't say AMD is free of it either. But comparatively in last 1-2 years, it has been better of the two. Come now, you are telling me just because the product fits into a certain market, its nomenclature/naming scheme is not going to present it better than it is? For someone who is able to read through the lines of the tech specs, it might now be much. But for those, who are not able to, it is not going to go down nice. Compare it to the recently launched 1660ti and name wise it appears to be just a slightly lower model, but it is not. A cut-throat salesman is bound to cheat a parent somewhere based on this.

But you're assuming the one lesser model should only have a small difference in performance, when this is not always the case nor was it ever promised. The naming scheme just basically means price and performance points from current generation. Titan 80 Ti 80 70 ti(pascal) 70 60 ti 60 50 ti 50

Ahmad Bilal:

Besides AMD was on the brink of collapse. They had at least some reason to do such things. Such is not the case with Nvidia

A bad thing is a bad thing, just because AMD is the underdog, it doesn´t mean that anything they do wrong or less well, is excusable.

@Aura89: I cannot make you see, when you yourself refuse to see. Let us leave it at that. As I have said, starting a flame war was not my intention. @vbetts: It is almost like saying XYZ is not strictly illegal, so you would do that. For example, you sit in a cab, and there is nowhere that Cab driver has promised that he won't push breaks multiple times unnecessarily, so you would allow him to do that? In other words, some people have a policy of dividing things into black and white only, some have a policy of dividing things in white, grey and black. And what Nvidia is doing is indeed in the grey area. It is your choice to continue trying to buy from a seller, while avoiding his attempts to cheat you. I would rather chose to buy it from someone who doesn't try to cheat me (if I let up). Unfortunately, as is obvious, AMD has tried the same things as well. But I must draw your attention to the fact that within the last 1-2 years, AMD is looking to be heading in the right direction. Now that their financials are in better place. @kings: I did say AMD is slightly better. But I didn't say that they are not guilty. For example, murdering someone in revenge and murdering someone in cold-blood are entirely two different things. In both case it is punishable under law and a wrong thing.

vbetts:

I will say though, flashing bios that aren't made for your card is not usually something that's recommended at least, so locking it down or keeping it open really does not do much I guess I'm trying to say?

I agree that flashing your VBIOS with one from a different model is generally not a good idea, but, if you're using something that's a complete rebrand (not just the chip itself, but also the AIB partner who used it) then sometimes there's a benefit to flashing the rebranded version, since you might get access to a wider voltage or frequency range. But, there's no promises to that and generally, I don't think that's worth it.

Ahmad Bilal:

It is your choice to continue trying to buy from a seller, while avoiding his attempts to cheat you. I would rather chose to buy it from someone who doesn't try to cheat me (if I let up). Unfortunately, as is obvious, AMD has tried the same things as well. But I must draw your attention to the fact that within the last 1-2 years, AMD is looking to be heading in the right direction. Now that their financials are in better place.

I don't really understand how Nvidia is cheating us here. Sure, their naming scheme with the 16XX series makes no sense at all (in fact, it's just downright stupid), but it's not deceiving.

Ahmad Bilal:

@Aura89: I cannot make you see, when you yourself refuse to see. Let us leave it at that. As I have said, starting a flame war was not my intention.

It's not about my ability to see, its about your ability to actually say anything at all, which obviously from my very clear question, that you didn't even try and answer, you are incapable of doing apparently. All you are doing is trying to create a flame war, that is exceptionally clear. You have no substance, no claim behind what you are posting, you are just posting to get a reaction. Prove me wrong, post something with actual substance, explain yourself, explain your reasons with facts and stats, we're all waiting. But i don't expect that'll happen, if you reply to my post again i expect it'll be a whole lot of nothing, yet again.