New Storage Roadmap shows 100TB HDDs in 2025
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spectatorx
"Well a roadmap from Seagate has surfaced showing their plans and intentions and they are working on 48TB and of you follow the trendline on the roadmap, 100 TB HDDs in 2025."
So they will create a time machine and go back in time to deliver high capacity drives, that's amazing from seagate! The best company ever!
Ok, ok, you have a typo in there ;-)
Clawedge
In before people start bitching about hard drive crashes!
YAY! ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED!
slyphnier
those new tech mamr and hamr
wonder how it effect to reliability... before with pmr, platter wearing from magnetic seems close to none
i have to heard a hdd error because it lost its magnetic capability
but now with heated and microwave, by using heat, from it sounds it can permanently change the platter, so i wonder if the platter going to develop badsector more easily after many write compared to pmr tech or not ?
from the articles i read so far, the reliability are about same
especially for WD mamr, i think tech-wise is better that hamr
(https://www.crn.com/news/storage/300093791/western-digital-hammers-down-on-mamr-not-hamr-for-spinning-hard-drives.htm)
(https://www.cloudberrylab.com/blog/hamr-vs-mamr-new-hdd-technology)
but we have yet to prove it ourself i guess
schmidtbag
Kinda makes sense - as SSD prices continue to drop, there's becoming less and less of a reason to use HDDs. So, the only way forward is to increase their capacity in a way that SSDs can't keep up with, at least in an affordable manner. 100TB HDDs are the only logical way forward.
The interesting thing is with such high data density on the same size platters, this ought to make sequential read times fast enough to compete with SATA SSDs. I figure drives like this will be very appealing to people who edit videos in 4K+, 3D, or ultra-high framerate (for slow-mo). All these people need is a crapload of storage with high sequential read speeds, and that's exactly what these drives will offer.
Silva
I think this kind of density only makes sense for server and cloud usage.
The average user only needs 1 to 4 Tb of storage and the content creators would rather have more than one place where to store data.
I have all my data backed up in a 3Tb HDD that I turn on once a month to back up some stuff. I'd rather buy multiple drives over having everything on a single drive.
schmidtbag
tsunami231
slyphnier
kinda funny for people think the file size itself dont grow bigger
nowdays full hd bluray already over 10GB, up to 100gb depending on quality preset + sound-quality
game like in the news few weeks ago "Red Dead Redemption 2" use over 100gb
we are not in full 4k yet, still do you think file size remain same ?
in audio, hi-resolution audio do take 10x mp3/m4a size... 100~500mb per file
now i ask u, why nowdays people using 1~4TB hdd ?
back 10years ago people using like 100~500GB hdd, right ?
schmidtbag
slyphnier
schmidtbag
Fox2232
And here I am thinking why did I ever needed 5TB storage. Those who think Movies backups... x265. And I do not even have those.
I opted out of having dead data. Most of my data are binaries and their data, not multimedia.
slyphnier
well it is not i didnt get your point or saying your POV wrong
for people not using many storage, like office-pc, yeah probably they will just enough with 1TB for years, i get it with that
for gamer, content-creator, audiophile people, those people will need bigger storage for sure
but then again "light-user" which u said vast-majority-PC-users (i kinda curious where u get those source?) most of time have their storage grow, and rarely if ever reduce ... thats 2nd fact i guess
Why ? simply because the content they are consume went bigger too
like their family pictures, videos they are taking are bigger nowdays... if before 2MP only take like 1mb per file... now with 12MP taking like 4mb+ each, so same to video size
and most people dont delete/clean-up their storage, they usually keep it on their storage forever, and thats why the storage keep getting bigger
now i bet you will saying, people now using cloud... what for big HDD... yea i agree we live in convinient era now...
But do u realize that, without u realizing the total storage u consume now is much bigger than before?
Those people paying for cloud-strorage = same to people buying hdd for storage
in the end, the storage will naturally follow the changes/follow it, which lead to bigger storage size
if now most people buying hdd is 3-4TB (less than that, i guess people buy 500GB~1TB SSD)
in next 1-2 years, people will getting 6-8TB for their storage drive and the trend will keep bigger....
thus eventually when u replace ur harddrive, it will be bigger than now, right ?
probably u wont use up all of the storage, and just say for sake-of-convenience , or even simply just because the price went down for bigger storage
but still your storage keep getting bigger than before right ?
and if we combining/look with the rest of storage-user, u should know that its inevitable for bigger storage
schmidtbag
Silva
tsunami231
schmidtbag
@tsunami231
Why not copy your old games to a separate drive and compress them in an archive? No need to buy one giant drive. If you want to save money, BD-Rs aren't as expensive as they used to be. You can get a pack of 50x 25GB discs for about $0.50 per disc. Use something like bzip2 and you should be able to cram the average modern AAA title into a single disc of that capacity. In the event you'd want to restore the archive and play the game again, your current CPU might actually be a bottleneck (when decompressing straight from the disc) rather than the limited bandwidth of the Blu Ray format.
As a side note, a great way to improve load times for games is to use the NTFS compression tool (or if you're in Linux, some filesystems like btrfs have great compression methods). Generally, the CPU isn't working that hard when a game is loading, and this is especially true if the main bottleneck is the drive itself (which usually is the case). With compression, you can improve load times by shrinking the amount of data that gets loaded from the disk and having the CPU do the work instead. I would advise against this for games that don't compress well, because otherwise that will hurt performance.
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schmidtbag
rl66