I have used a ips monitor but it was a korean one and the colors wasn't the real reason why i had it, but the screen size and the resolution. I had notice blurring here and there at first it didn't bother me, but after a while it got annoying, then after my monitor died, I decided the res and the bluring wasnt worth it to get a second 2560x1440 monitor not even for the 27inch size. I have owned dozen of TN panel's as well MVA panels, and none of those types was the reason why I grab a monitor, but the features it had and the cost was the main reasons. I bought this Asus 248QE monitor which i tweaked to get the colors just right as out of the box the colors was funky, and honestly I don't miss the IPS panel one bit, not even the size is missed. 3D vision 2 was the primary reason and I also wanted to see what the hype was about with 120/144hz and I no longer see it as hype, not after what i experienced while using the monitor. I actually more happy with this monitor then i ever was with my old monitor,even if its a TN panel that alot of your guys dislike. The smooth and fluidly of games on this monitor as it was the first thing that I notice. Made gaming much better, I tried to go back to 60hz to see if it was just placebo, but nope after using it 144hz for a while, I cant stand 60hz at all, not even on the desktop mouse all jumpy, Really felt off in a game too. If My korean monitor haven't died then I doubt i would had gotten it, Even with my monitor not overclocking. At the end of the day, people should just use what make them happy and not worry about what another person is using, even if you think they should be using something else instead. People will have different wants and needs which will be totally different from another.

You should have put 1200$ in the PLS Dell 30" .... total input lag under 2ms ( its only the pixel response time, hardware electronics are put to 0ms ) .. better of any TN on the market today... but well it is not a cheap monitor . You dont have 120hz, but.. well it is better as input lag than almost all TN on the market including the 120 and 144hz ( who have nothing to do with input lag afterall ( maybe second after that the last Asus use the same technic if im right ) I still consider this monitor as the Rolls Royce of monitor, ok you dont have the 144hz ( on a 30", good luck for minimal fps of 144hz ), but its a professional monitor, with excellent accuracy on full RBG (( let alone the other mode like sRGB ), excellent upscaling for a 30" monitor for movies.. incredible black and contrast.. and a damn game mode: who put the electronic input at zero ( this is what is responsible of the input lag, not the panel technology.. saying TN are good at input lag is a no sense, they are fast on pixel response time, but this is the electrionic behind who cause input lag ) .. so you end with a faster monitor of most TN 24-27" 144hz ... no 120hz maybe, no g-sync, but this is still a beast. Ofc, at 2560x1600 resolution it still cost nearly 1.5x of actual 4K screens, ... but on the end you have the perfect productivity monitor with the perfect gaming monitor, it just miss G-sync or adaptative sync..

I find that if you sit in front of the monitor, it works best. I can then enjoy 144fps gaming in all it's glory.

Have I missed something here? Do people move their chairs a lot while playing games? I upgraded from U2412M to PG278Q and don't have any issues with viewing angles and can still move up and down a bit in my chair.

Nope, but sometimes I have my feet on the table in a more laied-back position looking slightly from side and bellow. And in such scenarios TN with 160/170° fails - contrast shifting. Btw some IPS aren't that slow, it all depends on panel quality, cheaper models will obviously be slower. And I agree with Svarog, I also only had s-pva monitor before and going to IPS felt a bit so so, pva had better dark levels and contrast, but to go to TN now nah, pass ;p 🙂

Nope, but sometimes I have my feet on the table in a more laied-back position looking slightly from side and bellow. And in such scenarios TN with 160/170° fails - contrast shifting. Btw some IPS aren't that slow, it all depends on panel quality, cheaper models will obviously be slower. And I agree with Svarog, I also only had s-pva monitor before and going to IPS felt a bit so so, pva had better dark levels and contrast, but to go to TN now nah, pass.

Problem with backlight ? .. this is not due to the technology, but by the monitor manufacturer who have been cheap in the monitor fabrication... it sad to see this .. because the problem can be easely resolved .. ( my monitor suffer a bit of this so i see what yoou mean )

Problem with backlight ? .. this is not due to the technology, but by the monitor manufacturer who have been cheap in the monitor fabrication...

which part in my post do you mean? That PVA to IPS transition? If yes, this IPS has native 1000:1, old pva had native 1600:1, I saw this contrast difference right away in Doom3, but I can fix it alittle with faked 5000:1 contrast enhancer and a little darker gamma 2.2 to 2.4. Well to be honest I kinda doubt EIZO cheap'd on backlight., from what I saw its just IPS thing - dark contrast is not its best strength, compared to VA where it owns, but suffers from colour shifting if you look at it straight 0° by darker shades.. Edit: I see you edited your post a bit, yeah kinda sucks we can't get the best from both worlds, hopefully soon when they introduce another panel 😀

sometimes I have my feet on the table in a more laied-back position looking slightly from side and bellow.

Right, so we have established that if you try to play games lying down with your feet on the desk, a TN panel isn't suitable. :stewpid:

what a fail argument. OT I would be more then happy with TN if it had at least 175° angle, 160° vertical is just too low.

Its not a fail argument at all.. He just pushed it out to the absurd to make his point with processors. When a tn gaming monitor comes out/review there are a few people who always post w/o seeing it themselves(look at the thread on the swift monitor its full of people who own it saying these things are not issues, but the same people who bash TN keep going on about it).. "its a TN ill pass" or something similar with posts that always say the same thing about viewing angle color.. The tech they want it ips/spva high end gaming monitors doesn't exist so who cares.

Right, so we have established that if you try to play games lying down with your feet on the desk, a TN panel isn't suitable. :stewpid:

no Im still sitting on chair. And TN is still bad for other stuff, I do more then just straight on sitting and playing games :P