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#4901248
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Wouldn't it just create flicker, something which they are typically trying to get away from? It's flicker that's not really visible, but still causes eye strain over long viewing periods. The difference with this type of flicker and the PWM flicker (for backlight brightness) is that this is synced to the refresh rate of the monitor. At least, that's how it appears.
Yes, it's a 120Hz flicker, but it's not that bad. CRTs were fine with 100Hz flicker. Also, 1ms response is total bs, as so-called 240Hz mode basically means that the around 1st half of each 120Hz cycle is blank, effectively adding minimal lag. You will hardly notice it, but it just proves the point.
#4901254
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I stopped reading when I saw it was just another TN panel monitor. 🙂
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I stopped reading when I saw it was just another TN panel monitor. 🙂
Can we stop with these comments? There is only one high refreshrate VA monitor and no official high refresh rates ips monitors..
#4901280
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Can we stop with these comments? There is only one high refreshrate VA monitor and no official high refresh rates ips monitors..
Why? Who need another 144Hz TN screen? The point is that many don't want this **** but fast VA or IPS screens instead.
#4901300
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Why? Who need another 144Hz TN screen? The point is that many don't want this **** but fast VA or IPS screens instead.
Precisely my point. Well said Anarion. Desperately waiting for a fast IPS screen...
#4901312
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Why? Who need another 144Hz TN screen? The point is that many don't want this **** but fast VA or IPS screens instead.
How about you get off your keyboard and invent one then? I would love a 9Ghz 8 core. Guess what? They don't exist! Deal with it.
#4901315
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Most people are just cry babies when it comes to tn and ips i own a 27" samsung tn with 1ms and wouldnt trade it for anything other then a 4k equivalent
#4901320
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Most people are just cry babies when it comes to tn and ips i own a 27" samsung tn with 1ms and wouldnt trade it for anything other then a 4k equivalent
I'm just very picky about colour, image quality and viewing angles...
#4901398
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I'm just very picky about colour, image quality and viewing angles...
Same here, it's why i went with the EIZO CX240. Hefty price for a Non-Gaming Monitor, but it surely delivers what i want. - No IPS Glow - 100% Uniform Image - No Edge Bleeding - Colors (10-bit) - Viewing Angels - 16:10 And ofcourse - The Warranty (Pixel Class 1)
But you don't give a sh*t about high inputlag/g2g, low hz and, 9 out of 10 times, grainy coating? These monitors are for gamers. IPS isnt suited for fast paced gaming, but some people can live with it, like some people think 30-45 fps is fine. Once you've seen games run at ~150 fps on a 144 Hz screen it's hard going back to 60 hz regardless of colors being "better" - Colors arent actually "better" on IPS they are just more correct. TN can show very vibrant colors, especially the 8-bit TN panel on the Asus ROG Swift. It's comparable to eIPS in terms of color reproduction.
My CX240 has no Crystalized/Grainy AG Coating. It's not Glossy, but not extremely mate either. Apart from that it has Zero IPS Glow due to some unknown coating EIZO uses. Vibrant Colors mean they get Neon like, you don't have that with a Color Correct screen and it's a lot easier on the eyes. And this input lag is a load of manure, unless you Game for a living and have to make money with it. Otherwise for 99% of the world it has zero negative effects.
#4901402
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It's almost as if people have different tastes in things and not everything is objectively better. Who would have thought.
#4901403
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I stopped reading when I saw it was just another TN panel monitor. 🙂
thanks, i'll be able to sleep tonight now.
#4901448
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But you don't give a sh*t about high inputlag/g2g, low hz and, 9 out of 10 times, grainy coating? These monitors are for gamers. IPS isnt suited for fast paced gaming, but some people can live with it, like some people think 30-45 fps is fine.
I don't notice any input lag and there is no grainy coating. 🙂 I have no problems playing CS Source or any other FPS games...
thanks, i'll be able to sleep tonight now.
I'm so glad to be of assistance. 😀
#4901530
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Playing on a 60 Hz monitor makes me motion sick. If I really needed a monitor with better color representation I would just get a 2nd one and do other stuff on that one.
#4901541
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How about you get off your keyboard and invent one then? I would love a 9Ghz 8 core. Guess what? They don't exist! Deal with it.
what a fail argument. OT I would be more then happy with TN if it had at least 175° angle, 160° vertical is just too low.
#4901822
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Your input lag and g2g levels are way higher than on a TN monitor and 60 Hz is pretty crappy to begin with. You think you don't have a problem. Till you see how games run on a 144 Hz TN panel with matching fps. Day and night difference. But it sounds like you never seen one. Even a cheap 60 Hz TN panel would be superior to IPS in terms of inputlag, g2g levels and blur in general. This is why no serious FPS gamers use IPS. IPS can do for MMOs or other slow paced games. This is why i got a Dell U2711 for work and a Asus ROG Swift for gaming.
Still a TN Panel doesn't have the Colors and Uniformity of a IPS Panel, and never ever will have. And since that's what he (me aswell) cares about, there is no going TN. End of story.
#4901838
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I would be more then happy with TN if it had at least 175° angle, 160° vertical is just too low.
I find that if you sit in front of the monitor, it works best. I can then enjoy 144fps gaming in all it's glory.
#4901839
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Still a TN Panel doesn't have the Colors and Uniformity of a IPS Panel, and never ever will have. And since that's what he (me aswell) cares about, there is no going TN. End of story.
Fine, you like colours, we like speed. Each to their own.
#4901841
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I would be more then happy with TN if it had at least 175° angle, 160° vertical is just too low.
Have I missed something here? Do people move their chairs a lot while playing games? I upgraded from U2412M to PG278Q and don't have any issues with viewing angles and can still move up and down a bit in my chair.
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Your input lag and g2g levels are way higher than on a TN monitor and 60 Hz is pretty crappy to begin with. You think you don't have a problem. Till you see how games run on a 144 Hz TN panel with matching fps. Day and night difference. But it sounds like you never seen one. Even a cheap 60 Hz TN panel would be superior to IPS in terms of inputlag, g2g levels and blur in general. This is why no serious FPS gamers use IPS. IPS can do for MMOs or other slow paced games. This is why i got a Dell U2711 for work and a Asus ROG Swift for gaming.
Well, This is not toally true, the Dell 30" and some other IPS / PLS panel have 0 input lag.. (( thanks to the simple method to completely bypass electronics and OSD when in gaming mode ). their total input is simply the pixel response. Now they are not 120+hz if this is what peoples are about. Anyway lets be honest, it is really hard to get 120fps-150fps minimum on a 27-30", let alone a UHD monitor, so for this type of monitor offtly capable of been OC to 85-100hz ( without glitch ), this should be enough. Anyway, everyone choose what suit him. 1 year ago it was impossible to find a 27" 2560x1440 with 120hz ( only 1080p), now they start to appears, market and technology are moving.
#4901949
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Thats fine, like i said, IPS has it's place. It's just not good for gaming. Which is why I got two monitors. An IPS and a TN. Sadly you can't get one monitor for everything today, unless you are willing to make compromises and I'm not. I just fint it strange that some people with IPS monitors, feel the need to open news about TN gaming monitors and write crap every single time.
It's hard to go TN when you only had S-PVA in the past. Once you're used to such quality there is no going back. Only IPS, which is a slight downgrade over S-PVA when it comes to Black Levels. Tho my CX240 has proper Blacks. I only ever had EIZO myself, and i wont be leaving them any time soon. (my previous screen was a EIZO S2231W, S-PVA)

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