Intel reports record turnover and doubles up on profit

Redemption80

2017-07-28 20:55

I honestly couldn't care less, if they sell something I want at a price I like then I will buy it. The 2600k is the best piece of PC hardware that I've owned.

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rl66

2017-07-28 21:19

PS. AMD should start support alternative systems (like ReactOS) because MS only rub Intel back.. Why ReactOS? Because it is natively most compatible os with windows and it can be alternative os for pc game industry in future, and it can be well optimized for amd if they want.

i agree, now that they have good driver on windows... i am not too much ReactOS... Why make a windows compatible system as most program exist natively or work very fine with trix on non windows system ???

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cryohellinc

2017-07-28 22:11

Aura89 Did you even read thread? If not, that makes you third one that posts this video. 😉

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chronek

2017-07-28 23:09

Why make a windows compatible system as most program exist natively or work very fine with trix on non windows system ???

Yes you can run some windows programs on non windows system, it is like 1% of all windows programs and the same for games... To run everything like on windows you need whole system. So why run natively? You can run faster, use more resources, do it more stable, you can operate on low level hardware and not just convert or emulate, you can change os like you want and not be bound to other system. You can ship with computers and do pay support on large scale. Windows was good operating system, but now microsoft changed their business from creating to force of selling. Intel, nvidia, microsoft - they did some good stuff long time ago, but now they rub backs each other just to maintain monopoly and that is their business and strategy now. Amd have cpu and gpu, they need only good os and they will take large part of market, just imagine steamos based on reactos on amd hardware and you can play all games faster.... PS. Example - even if you have wine on linux almost every linux user have second partition with windows for games and some specialized programs...

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Redemption80

2017-07-28 23:59

ReactOS is a hobby, it's fun but completely pointless. "Awrite Guys" As an Nvidia card owner that has watched AMD hardware excel on newer Windows OS's and and api's, it's time this corruption ends. It's why I don't buy AMD hardware, I can't support a company that bribes MS to develop an api and release 1:1 ports that only benefits AMD hardware 🙂

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sykozis

2017-07-29 01:46

People have been saying this for years, but it hasn't happened. Now I will say ARM is starting to come up in the commercial space, you see tablets made with credit card machines and drawer systems that run on ARM. That makes sense. Office machines, Intel has these on lock down. Makes sense too, they've been in office machines for years. Newer machines have iGPUs, the big companies that provide IT solutions through Dell, HP....Uhhh I think those are the only 2 left in the office space actually...Even then Dell is bigger than HP in that aspect and their machines mostly comprise of Intel machines.

Acer and Lenovo still sell office oriented systems.

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chronek

2017-07-29 13:01

ReactOS is a hobby, it's fun but completely pointless.

Yes, it is a hobby for now, but not pointless, windows need good alternative, or you will be struck with windows 11 what will be only macos copy... So how many funds have reactos? like 1k$ per year? They can not hire profesional developer, just imagine that steam and amd would start support, give developers or donate some milions (Intel pay bilions to run software better on their cpu). In half year it would not be only hobby...

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PrMinisterGR

2017-07-29 21:28

There is no way that ReactOS will ever pass the gimmick level. Even WINE which is more than a decade long project has only recently reached Win9x API completeness. Windows aren't bad, I don't understand why people get so upset. Eventually Microsoft will most likely open them more.

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Redemption80

2017-07-29 21:48

Why would Valve or AMD fund ReactOS? Valve had a little rant and started something, then stopped caring that much about a Windows alternative. AMD have no reason to either when Windows 10 works well with their hardware and GPU wise actually favours it so far.

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Noisiv

2017-07-29 22:05

yeah screw React OS and screw Linux. real men use TempleOS [youtube]xXNCJiDzhWs[/youtube]

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Aura89

2017-07-30 00:36

Aura89 Did you even read thread? If not, that makes you third one that posts this video. 😉

It's that important 🙂

Well its been proven. There is a YouTube video linked here, made by a Scottish guy using Wikipedia as his credible source from the start. Get out the tin foil hats

I'm sorry that you don't like facts? If you had actually watched the video, which i doubt considering your response, you'd have known that all he did was put the information, the facts, out there. No conclusions made by him, just the facts. If you think facts are for "tin foil hat" people, then you're also probably one of those people who claim "FAKE NEWS!" because the news is something you do not agree with/like/want to believe is fake. That's pretty sad if you ask me.

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chronek

2017-07-30 00:56

AMD have no reason to either when Windows 10 works well with their hardware and GPU wise actually favours it so far.

Yes it works, but when ms os, dx api, drivers, games and other software compiled by ms visual works like - if genuineintel then run optimized code, if not then use slowest code (because intel paying for that for last 40 years), then maybe amd should find alternative so noone would say "amd is bad in games". Btw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osSMJRyxG0k

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Redemption80

2017-07-30 01:36

But when current MS OS and api's all currently favour AMD, your argument falls over. Intel's bad business practices should not be used as as diversion/distraction for poor products. When AMD release a good product they do well, when they release crap they do crap. Guiting people into buying something inferior because might work on the gullible, but it doesn't work on me.

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chronek

2017-07-30 09:58

But when current MS OS and api's all currently favour AMD, your argument falls over.

You mean when os and software run optimized on intel and slowest posible code on amd then it means it favours amd? I not get your logic.

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Exascale

2017-07-30 17:41

I honestly couldn't care less, if they sell something I want at a price I like then I will buy it. The 2600k is the best piece of PC hardware that I've owned.

That mentality is exactly what has destroyed the economies of the USA, Australia and Europe and lead to capital flight, conflict resource proliferation which funds genocide and the modern slave trade, and has created a race to the bottom mentality for product quality. The 2600K is nice for 2011 era CPUs. It shows just how little Intel progressed in the consumer space since then. Now that AMD has released Ryzen and is beating Intel in value enormously, you have rushed releases of LGA2066 and 6 core LGA1151s. Considering that AMD has 4 core 8 thread CPUs with 2x the memory bandwidth of a 2600k it might be time to modernize.

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Redemption80

2017-07-30 17:51

Enough of the do i say, not as i do. Change the record. Expecting people to pay for something they do not like or want is crazy. We live in capitalist world full of socialists lol. Yes, the 2600k is definitely due an upgrade but the argument was the value i've managed to get from it.

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Exascale

2017-07-30 19:31

I didnt say to buy something you dont like or dont want. Im saying that buying based solely on price ruins the market. If you look at the consumer electronics landscape, it has gotten pretty bad as a result of consumers' buying habits. Even if you dont plan on buying AMD anything, the fact that they're making better CPUs than Intel now has already forced Intel to release 6 core small socket CPUs finally.

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Andrew LB

2017-07-30 20:12

I bet those stats are deliberately inflated by them.

No, they're not. Otherwise they'd receive MASSIVE fines by the Securites and Exchange Commission (SEC). Quarterly earnings reports are highly regulated because this is one of the main factors used in evaluating stock price, credit ratings, and taxes paid to the Government.

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Redemption80

2017-07-30 21:45

I didnt say to buy something you dont like or dont want. Im saying that buying based solely on price ruins the market. If you look at the consumer electronics landscape, it has gotten pretty bad as a result of consumers' buying habits. Even if you dont plan on buying AMD anything, the fact that they're making better CPUs than Intel now has already forced Intel to release 6 core small socket CPUs finally.

It's never solely on price, if a product fits with what I want but isn't priced correctly I'm just not going to get it. If anything I think it's the people with no consideration about price who do the most damage. I do plan on buying AMD again, things are looking good for them again and I'm back interested in their CPUs. Less so with GPU's though.

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Chechar51

2017-07-30 23:04

must be a lie, AdoredTV already said intel is dead(?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3l9vZD7h_8