Intel reports record turnover and doubles up on profit

#5456445

cryohellinc

2017-07-28 09:17

I bet those stats are deliberately inflated by them.

#5456464

Exascale

2017-07-28 10:39

Short intel. Long AMD.

#5456478

chronek

2017-07-28 11:08

are bribes for monopoly so profitable?

#5456486

cryohellinc

2017-07-28 11:26

are bribes for monopoly so profitable?

They aren't, hence as ive said the figures are inflated for "good report". In actuality, at least 50% of those profits goes out as bribes (IF not more lol!).

#5456494

Silva

2017-07-28 12:01

Monopoly is bad, ok?

are bribes for monopoly so profitable?

In the short term? Yes. On the long run? Who knows? Personally I will avoid buying Intel unless they have the best price/performance at my budget level, witch I doubt.

#5456495

cryohellinc

2017-07-28 12:06

In the short term? Yes. On the long run? Who knows? Personally I will avoid buying Intel unless they have the best price/performance at my budget level, witch I doubt.

Intel's glorious years have passed, future lies with AMD / Nvidia / ARM.

#5456507

H83

2017-07-28 12:40

Intel should be forced to give an year ´s profit to AMD to even out things... It´s ridiculous the amount of money some companies make every year...

#5456509

Aura89

2017-07-28 12:46

Intel should be forced to give an year ´s profit to AMD to even out things...

Haha, that'd be the day.

#5456515

Denial

2017-07-28 13:05

In the short term? Yes. On the long run? Who knows? Personally I will avoid buying Intel unless they have the best price/performance at my budget level, witch I doubt.

They've been doing it for 20 years, through multiple lawsuits - I think it's pretty good in the long run too.

#5456520

JamesSneed

2017-07-28 13:25

Interesting, AMD and Intel both doing well. Something tells me both can't do well for to long, one will have to loose market share and profits that go with it.

#5456536

nevcairiel

2017-07-28 14:04

are bribes for monopoly so profitable?

Why would they bribe anyone if there is no competition anyway? Also, lying on official earning calls is a felony. They make the majority of their money from professional sales, ie. datacenter and the like, where there hasn't been any competition for years and years. If that changes in the future we'll see, but earnings are for the past, not the future. 😛

#5456539

RzrTrek

2017-07-28 14:08

Intel should be forced to give an year ´s profit to AMD to even out things... It´s ridiculous the amount of money some companies make every year...

That's not how it works and I hope you're not serious.

#5456549

chronek

2017-07-28 14:32

Why would they bribe anyone if there is no competition anyway?

Ya, why Intel would pay to MS and Nvidia for work better with their cpu (if detect intel cpu it runs optimized code, if not then run completly unoptimized - in os, directx api, drivers, games (because of ms visual c++ etc)...) or pay to distributors to sell only their products... It make no sense, what would they gain?... except profit... btw https://youtu.be/osSMJRyxG0k PS. AMD should start support alternative systems (like ReactOS) because MS only rub Intel back.. Why ReactOS? Because it is natively most compatible os with windows and it can be alternative os for pc game industry in future, and it can be well optimized for amd if they want.

#5456556

cryohellinc

2017-07-28 14:54

Why would they bribe anyone if there is no competition anyway? Also, lying on official earning calls is a felony. They make the majority of their money from professional sales, ie. datacenter and the like, where there hasn't been any competition for years and years. If that changes in the future we'll see, but earnings are for the past, not the future. 😛

Clearly you aren't familiar with what Intel has been doing for past 40 years. The amount of bribes they make yearly just to sit on top as monopolist. The amount of cases that are open against Intel's anti consumer, anti technology, anti free market practices is staggering. 1.4 Billion EU commission lawsuit alone is a nice example. :infinity: Start your research with this great video - https://youtu.be/osSMJRyxG0k as an example. P.S. haha reps to chronek, posted exactly the same video. 🙂

#5456570

H83

2017-07-28 15:33

Ya, why Intel would pay to MS and Nvidia for work better with their cpu (if detect intel cpu it runs optimized code, if not then run completly unoptimized - in os, directx api, drivers, games (because of ms visual c++ etc)...) or pay to distributors to sell only their products... It make no sense, what would they gain?... except profit...

I was under the impression that Intel only did this in the Athlon era because the Athlon destroyed Pentium back in the day and later they´re found out and stopped it. Correct me if i´m wrong, please. Because like nevcairiel said there´s no point in bribing people when there´s no competition...

#5456578

vbetts

Moderator

2017-07-28 15:45

Intel's glorious years have passed, future lies with AMD / Nvidia / ARM.

People have been saying this for years, but it hasn't happened. Now I will say ARM is starting to come up in the commercial space, you see tablets made with credit card machines and drawer systems that run on ARM. That makes sense. Office machines, Intel has these on lock down. Makes sense too, they've been in office machines for years. Newer machines have iGPUs, the big companies that provide IT solutions through Dell, HP....Uhhh I think those are the only 2 left in the office space actually...Even then Dell is bigger than HP in that aspect and their machines mostly comprise of Intel machines.

#5456589

cryohellinc

2017-07-28 16:01

People have been saying this for years, but it hasn't happened. Now I will say ARM is starting to come up in the commercial space, you see tablets made with credit card machines and drawer systems that run on ARM. That makes sense. Office machines, Intel has these on lock down. Makes sense too, they've been in office machines for years. Newer machines have iGPUs, the big companies that provide IT solutions through Dell, HP....Uhhh I think those are the only 2 left in the office space actually...Even then Dell is bigger than HP in that aspect and their machines mostly comprise of Intel machines.

Watch the video I linked above, and you will see why. Intel bribes them. Also ( website is down, cached version works ) - This article demonstrates why Intel will die out soon, Unless they change their approach overall.

#5456592

vbetts

Moderator

2017-07-28 16:03

Watch the video I linked above, and you will see why. Intel bribes them. Also ( website is down, cached version works ) - This article demonstrates why Intel will die out soon, Unless they change their approach overall.

This we know sadly...Intel has been doing this for years. But even still, AMD has nothing to offer at a price point that Intel doesn't already. The big thing that people like about Intel in the commercial scene is you have your CPU, and an igpu that can do multiple monitors. If it's too old to do so, then it's cheap enough to add a card that will do this. If AMD were to shake this up, they would have to offer something drematically different from what Intel is offering.

#5456615

kegastaMmer

2017-07-28 17:51

Intel should be forced to give an year ´s profit to AMD to even out things... It´s ridiculous the amount of money some companies make every year...

Sometimes, this strat works when i play monopoly :}

#5456633

Aura89

2017-07-28 19:07

I was under the impression that Intel only did this in the Athlon era because the Athlon destroyed Pentium back in the day and later they´re found out and stopped it. Correct me if i´m wrong, please. Because like nevcairiel said there´s no point in bribing people when there´s no competition...

It never stopped, people just stopped looking. https://youtu.be/osSMJRyxG0k This right here is why i will never support intel. It's not being an AMD fan, as i'd applaud another competitor (were it possible). But Intel, nope.