XenthorX:

Gonna need link on that !

[youtube=AG_ZHi3tuyk] At 6:40.

rflair:

The blower could be a good thing, the 3080 was shown to raise CPU and system temps by 10c just dumping all the heat in the case. If the 3090 is as huge as made out to be the blower and heatsink would be significant.

After watching that link, the 20 Series Founders cards raised CPU and Memory temps even higher. I'd say this would be true of probably any card that doesn't exhaust out the rear. Still I Watercool my CPU, so this isn't an issue for me personally. I also don't like blower cards as they just tend to be noisy overall.

I did saw this video but he ends up saying it performs better than 2080-ti founder edition?

jbscotchman:

A single fan blower cooler and only two 8-pin connectors, on a 3090?? If I was gonna spend $1500 I would stay the hell away from this card.

Yes but consider this. The Founder's Edition RTX 3090 comes with a 12-pin connector, needs 350W, and includes a 12 to dual 8-pin adapter. I'm reading that off the NVIDIA web site specs. So if you buy a FE card, you're using an adapter and the same two 8-pin plugs you'd use on the Gigabyte card. But the Gigabyte card doesn't need an adapter. I know, the Gigabyte's going to be loud and neither the FE nor Gigabyte give you much room to tweak if you're using 350/375W. But power wise it's actually better to have the connectors right on the board vs. using an adapter. NVIDIA's dual fan system is pretty innovative actually even though it does dump some hot air in the case, it shouldn't matter much for most systems. I don't work for Gigabyte or NVIDIA and neither design is horrible, just sayin'. 🙂

This is a great looking design. I've been hoping for a good turbo design for the 3080 and 3090. The Asus 2080ti turbo I have been using, has provided exceptional service. Thank you Hilbert for posting this article.

Fantastic! Gigabyte made a card for me! I love these blower designs, way better than the dual fan or tripple fan setups. Was worried id have to buy a tripple fan version and have to add a waterblock on it to exhaust the heat out of my case. lol

@jbscotchman and we're supposed to listen to the advice of someone that doesnt understand/know that the 12 vs 8 pin plug wont change how much power the card gets. @krusher_r lol. it matters, and quite a lot. my LC 2080S is fast as most bottom tis that are aircooled. to test the difference i even swapped cases, running the cpu rad on the side (so it wouldnt obstruct airflow), three 140 (rear and top) while another three for intake on front/bottom (same size), and the worst 2080 (12+2) under water was doing at least 10% better compared to 2080S with 16+4 phases and 3 fans. not even with lots of airflow and gpu fans ramping up was the card anywhere close to the non-S i had with a 120mm aio. the full block i have now gets me at least 100MHz under load, and couple of benches got me better results than any other 2080 S/non-S that were listed. boost clocks start dropping once you hit 43*C, so yeah, the cooler (the case) the better, so running this and a LC for the cpu setup to exhaust heat outside the case will be the closest you will get to LC the gpu. unless the heatsink/cooler is as crappy as they have been in the past...

fry178:

that the 12 vs 8 pin plug wont change how much power the card gets.

yes, it does.

@Astyanax no it doesnt, or the adapter from two 8 pin to 12 wouldnt work, not even talking about the aic with two 8 pins on their cards.

fantaskarsef:

Probably is for watercoolers. But wouldn't want to run a 3090 with such an air cooler.

Probably. I bought a blower 2080 Ti for my water block. Much cheaper (was used on ebay and works like a champ.)

fry178:

@Astyanax no it doesnt, or the adapter from two 8 pin to 12 wouldnt work, not even talking about the aic with two 8 pins on their cards.

wrong 12pin = 566w (limited by 18awg cable for the 8 pins) 3x8pin = 450w (limited by the pcie spec for input power)

rflair:

[youtube=AG_ZHi3tuyk] At 6:40.

Honestly the response Nvidia gives for this video is even worse than the initial claim. None of the slides that mention 2x the 2080 during that presentation talk about RT performance, in fact the one slide specifically says "average across multiple popular games". They should have just listed the games where it does go up 2x (there are several of them) then said the one slide was inaccurate, it should have said "up to 2x" and not twice the performance and called it a day. They doubled down in the worse way possible and it makes them look dumb.

Denial:

Honestly the response Nvidia gives for this video is even worse than the initial claim. None of the slides that mention 2x the 2080 during that presentation talk about RT performance, in fact the one slide specifically says "average across multiple popular games". They should have just listed the games where it does go up 2x (there are several of them) then said the one slide was inaccurate, it should have said "up to 2x" and not twice the performance and called it a day. They doubled down in the worse way possible and it makes them look dumb.

But they wont get the flack they deserve for it. AMD dumb ass marketing team does this, ripped to shreds. Nvidia does, people still line up like sheeps to buy their shit and ignore anything bad they do.

Agonist:

But they wont get the flack they deserve for it. AMD dumb ass marketing team does this, ripped to shreds. Nvidia does, people still line up like sheeps to buy their crap and ignore anything bad they do.

I've seen lots of complaints about it but I myself dont give a damn about marketing bs, especially early stuff. Perhaps thats a difference between AMD and NVidia purchasers? Its easy to read between the lines and even easier to just wait a bit longer to get actual results. It was obvious from the start, 2x is best case and indeed it is, it was never going to be everything that fast. At least there is a ring of truth to it though.

If it's anything like my 50th Ann Ed blower fan you won't be able to hear it even after playing intensive games for hours at a sitting--leaving the fan setting on "Auto." Depends entirely on the engineering. Several tri-fan cooler designs are said by their owners to be noisy...so it's less in the type of fan and more down to the engineering involved/component quality than anything else. I can force my fan to make a lot of racket, however--if I go into the drivers and manually turn up the max fan to ~70% or greater... Fortunately, I have no case in which I have to move the fan beyond auto. Interesting design for this GB nV card. It's like the myth about chipset fans--that they go zzzzz-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-zeeeee really loud...;) This is 2020, not 1995, so, no. I've had the x570 Aorus Master mboard a year and still haven't heard the chipset fan. The CPU fan is louder, actually, and usually it's nice and quiet (Prism, 3900X.) My response to the "up to 2x" marketing from nVidia is only this. Yawn. It's expected--I especially expect it from nVidia...;) As far as we know, when actual production 3000-series GPUs actually become available to the public, the performance characteristics may not be quite as "robust" as the review units sent out--maybe--but that, too, would be indicative of nVidia GPU launches. It's the same with the "starting at $xxx" pricing JHH quoted in his representation--it's not what purchasers may actually have to pay--"starting at" leaves a lot of room for higher pricing, imo...;) I do think customers can feel confident that the "starting at" pricing from JHH is certainly *the least* they will pay for the GPUs when they become available in quantity, however. Personally, I'm not doing anything until ~10/28. My bet is that AMD is waiting to fill the channels with GPU product before the reveal! Let's hope so, anyway.

Mufflore:

I've seen lots of complaints about it but I myself dont give a damn about marketing bs, especially early stuff. Perhaps thats a difference between AMD and NVidia purchasers? Its easy to read between the lines and even easier to just wait a bit longer to get actual results. It was obvious from the start, 2x is best case and indeed it is, it was never going to be everything that fast. At least there is a ring of truth to it though.

ok cool story. It literally fails at where the 2x performance mattered the most, and is twice as fast in games that really dont matter the most TBH, so they do deserve to get the marketing bs beating.

@Astyanax we're not talking max wattage of the plugs. max plug wattage does NOT equal the cards power draw. if this card pulls xxxW, it will do that with either variant. and if Nv allows to run the FE with an adapter from 12 to two 8 pin, there wont be higher draw than two 8 pin can deliver. quoting Nv 3090 specs page: Supplementary Power Connectors 2x PCIe 8-pin (adapter to 1x 12-pin included). so NO, it wont matter.

Agonist:

ok cool story. It literally fails at where the 2x performance mattered the most, and is twice as fast in games that really dont matter the most TBH, so they do deserve to get the marketing bs beating.

Yeah, cool story bro.

Only Intruder:

Na... it's for those that want that authentic "reference" feel 😉

It is "Turbo Edition". People buy Turbo to hear and feel it.

fry178:

and if Nv allows to run the FE with an adapter from 12 to two 8 pin, there wont be higher draw than two 8 pin can deliver.

It already draws 480w peaks