Gigabyte Radeon RX 5600 XT Gaming OC review

Hilbert Hagedoorn

Administrator

2020-01-21 18:38

WhiteLightning:

I also read in another review that all cards besides sapphire have a old bios installed which requires flashing to get to new speeds. and their card died while flashing.

I've reflashed all tested cards at least twice, none of them died.

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WhiteLightning

Moderator

2020-01-21 18:43

Hilbert Hagedoorn:

I've reflashed all tested cards at least twice, none of them died.

Doesnt mean it cant happen though. (it was mentioned on hardware.info). What if someone buys one , and it dies. He/she will have to go through RMA process and all that crap. Something i personally rather avoid. thats why id get the sapphire.

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Andy Watson

2020-01-21 18:47

Amusing it took nvidia a long time to release their Super series to remain competitive whilst feisty AMD release it ... immediately ! 5600XT Super ... going to be a good seller. What will nvidia do now? They much prefer to release a new card rather than cutting money on existing, but that means they have to release the 2060 Super Super. Which sounds silly. Perhaps follow intel and do the 2060 Super ++. Sorted.

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mohiuddin

2020-01-21 18:53

Hilbert Sir could u add RDR2 in the bench suite plz plz 🙁

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MonstroMart

2020-01-21 18:57

Loophole35:

With BIOS update trading blows with 2060S ($400) in DX12. And trading blows with 2060 ($320) in DX11 all at $280. Great job. The 1660s is still a better Performance per dollar but this GPU is a better step into the QHD realm.

I still feel that if you play at 1080p a 1660 Super is more than enough and if you play at higher resolution you should definitely think about spending the extra for a 5700XT.

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JonasBeckman

2020-01-21 19:02

WhiteLightning:

Doesnt mean it cant happen though. (it was mentioned on hardware.info). What if someone buys one , and it dies. He/she will have to go through RMA process and all that crap. Something i personally rather avoid. thats why id get the sapphire.

As long as they use a up to date software IE a newer ATIFlash instead of ATIWinflash it should be OK but a bios switch would be nice as a standard instead of something for non-reference cards like with what seems to be the Navi series so far, greatly reduces possible issues too especially in case not all cards might be 100% for these pretty much at the very limits higher settings. (Although I wouldn't risk a bios flash without a backup in the first place so unless AMD went super strict with the base limits dialing in the new ones as a software overclock could do it unless voltage limitations hinder things.) EDIT: For the average user though for these first few months stock might be mixed between old and new GPU's and in general a bios flash is a advanced update of the graphics card that shouldn't be done carelessly so AMD could have handled this a little bit better. (Bios switch helps but it's not like things can't go wrong.)

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MonstroMart

2020-01-21 19:03

WhiteLightning:

Doesnt mean it cant happen though. (it was mentioned on hardware.info). What if someone buys one , and it dies. He/she will have to go through RMA process and all that crap. Something i personally rather avoid. thats why id get the sapphire.

Crap can happen all the time. You could buy a Sapphire online and get a DOA card and have to return it to the online store.

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alanm

2020-01-21 19:09

Denial:

Eh, disagree. At the midrange they are certainly not great but newer titles are pushing up easily. Wolf for example, the 2080Ti can do 4K @ 60 without DLSS. It also remains to be seen with consoles having RT support how that drives game performance/adoption and techniques. Also RTX cards have mesh shaders, VRS and a few other features that AMD doesn't support at the moment. There is definitely value-add with RTX. Some other things: Nvidia's encoder is superior to RDNAs - enough to make an appreciable difference in image quality. Nvidia currently supports VRR, AMD does not. So outside of just sheer performance there is value with going Nvidia. How much are those things worth? Depends on the person.

I think ray tracing has become too much of a broad term to describe and and all aspects of it, from the minimalist implementations of it to the crippling full global illumination type. Never impressed by the lesser forms of it to be a factor in choice of GPU (at this point in time). High quality RT implementations or levels is what I am referring to (ie, as in BF5 and Metro Ex), not the watered-down types. That is the context I am referring to and with which 1st gen RTX cards will struggle with. Other aspects or benefits of 1st gen RTX cards not really relevant to this, but no argument there. Anyone considering RTX 2060 over the 5600xt because of 'ray tracing' is not very bright at this stage 😀.

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Hilbert Hagedoorn

Administrator

2020-01-21 19:21

mohiuddin:

Hilbert Sir could u add RDR2 in the bench suite plz plz 🙁

I had that going but removed it, a patch was released and perf changed dramatically. Redid the test with all cards took me two days ... a patch was released, again changing performance. I might add it again once this game is done patching.

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Denial

2020-01-21 19:49

WhiteLightning:

Doesnt mean it cant happen though. (it was mentioned on hardware.info). What if someone buys one , and it dies. He/she will have to go through RMA process and all that crap. Something i personally rather avoid. thats why id get the sapphire.

AMD shipped a last-minute VBIOS change that completely overhauled its RX 5600 XT – mostly for the better – we just want to make sure everyone is aware of this so that they can ensure their cards match review performance. Some cards will never get updates, from what we’ve been told, as their designs too closely ride the limit of the lower power budget. Others will get them immediately and before they get to buyers. Most will receive some form of VBIOS update, but only after the initial wave (as these were already shipped by the time the change happened). Just make sure you check your VBIOS version and options from the manufacturer if buying. Alternatively, wait another month and it should be clear.

Honestly I think the issue is more about the need to flash and/or may not be flashable. When I buy a card I just want it to work - I want to know the performance I'm getting out of my 5600XT matches reviewers. I don't want to have to do research about whether my card will be flashable or not or even worry about flashing it.

alanm:

I think ray tracing has become too much of a broad term to describe and and all aspects of it, from the minimalist implementations of it to the crippling full global illumination type. Never impressed by the lesser forms of it to be a factor in choice of GPU (at this point in time). High quality RT implementations or levels is what I am referring to (ie, as in BF5 and Metro Ex), not the watered-down types. That is the context I am referring to and with which 1st gen RTX cards will struggle with. Other aspects or benefits of 1st gen RTX cards not really relevant to this, but no argument there. Anyone considering RTX 2060 over the 5600xt because of 'ray tracing' is not very bright at this stage 😀.

Yeah but again it's hard to say where this will lead. Presumably the PS5/XB1X will be close in specs at roughly 6Tflops and both are supposedly getting RT hardware. So the performance of the GPU is going to come in pretty close to this card and the RT experiences will be based around that. Games launching next year, on these consoles, shipping with RT simply won't work on this card but theoretically will on a 2060. And I'm not saying like people should choose the 2060 over the 5600XT because of this -- but when both are at similar price points (despite what other users are saying microcenter near me is carrying 2060's for $299 and I see various others for $310 on newegg/BH and whatnot) and one has access to a whole slew of features the other card doesn't.. I'm probably going to spend the $10-20 more to get the Nvidia card.

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Loophole35

2020-01-21 19:52

Denial:

Honestly I think the issue is more about the need to flash and/or may not be flashable. When I buy a card I just want it to work - I want to know the performance I'm getting out of my 5600XT matches reviewers. I don't want to have to do research about whether my card will be flashable or not or even worry about flashing it.

It was definitely a desperation move on TRG but making the 5600xt a better card is not a bad thing.

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JonasBeckman

2020-01-21 20:22

Hilbert Hagedoorn:

I had that groin but removed it, a patch was released and perf changed dramatically. Redid the test with all cards took me two days ... a patch was released, again changing performance. I might add it again once this game is done patching.

Yeah the horses ability to react to weather is quite something they added into the game. That little autocorrect aside though it'd make for a interesting benchmark addition once it's updated a bit more and stabilizes especially for a addition for newer released games that utilize D3D12 and Vulkan and could be drawing on new features from these API's. 🙂 (Well more so for Vulkan 1.1 but I'm sure there's been additions to DirectX 12 too.) EDIT: When it does get released DOOM Eternal will hopefully make for a good update to the benchmark suite as well. (High framerate highly optimized and something AMD and NVIDIA will likely be very actively involved in optimizing further in their drivers as well.)

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Turanis

2020-01-21 20:24

Thanks,mr Hilbert,for this review. RDR2 is still buggy as sh**,these "mid" class card cant maintain minimum 60 fps on High/Ultra,just spikes and hicups. Imo,than Gtx 2060S or RX 5600 6GB @300 euros better get RX 5700(undervolted) 8GB@ 330 euros.Gtx 2060 will be obsolete when Gtx 3000 series will come Soon™.

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Crazy Serb

2020-01-21 20:40

Honestly, disappointing product. Why? Because it is the best product in stack of disappointing products and it required trash chips to make it happen....

alanm:

High quality RT implementations or levels is what I am referring to (ie, as in BF5

Most of the raytracing is removed from BF5 because RTX cards were not able to provide "playable" experience...

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mohiuddin

2020-01-21 20:51

Hilbert Hagedoorn:

I had that going but removed it, a patch was released and perf changed dramatically. Redid the test with all cards took me two days ... a patch was released, again changing performance. I might add it again once this game is done patching.

Ok sir. U are the boss.

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vbetts

Moderator

2020-01-21 20:55

Man remove the core and memory clocking limitations and this card will be a hit.

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Cyberdyne

2020-01-21 21:05

In the various rumor threads for this GPU there were some people confident that the Vega 56 would kill this card at 4k. That doesn't seem to be the case. Out of the 9 games tested here, only 1 (Witcher 3 by a few fps) was a win for the Vega card. Every other game either tied by 1 fps, or was in favor of the new 5600 XT. Honestly the GPU does a good job staying where it should in the product stack at 4k, shouldn't that mean the GPU isn't actually VRAM bandwidth limited/bottlenecked?

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Krizby

2020-01-21 21:12

@hilbert Can you please rebench RTX 2060 and not using data from last year please, I can easily tell you used 2060 FE data from 2019 jan 7th.

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Mesab67

2020-01-21 21:35

Turanis:

...RDR2 is still buggy as sh**,these "mid" class card cant maintain minimum 60 fps on High/Ultra,just spikes and hicups...

You're not holding back there, you tell 'em 😉

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Andy Watson

2020-01-21 21:49

Denial:

Honestly I think the issue is more about the need to flash and/or may not be flashable. When I buy a card I just want it to work - I want to know the performance I'm getting out of my 5600XT matches reviewers. I don't want to have to do research about whether my card will be flashable or not or even worry about flashing it. Yeah but again it's hard to say where this will lead. Presumably the PS5/XB1X will be close in specs at roughly 6Tflops and both are supposedly getting RT hardware. So the performance of the GPU is going to come in pretty close to this card and the RT experiences will be based around that. Games launching next year, on these consoles, shipping with RT simply won't work on this card but theoretically will on a 2060. And I'm not saying like people should choose the 2060 over the 5600XT because of this -- but when both are at similar price points (despite what other users are saying microcenter near me is carrying 2060's for $299 and I see various others for $310 on newegg/BH and whatnot) and one has access to a whole slew of features the other card doesn't.. I'm probably going to spend the $10-20 more to get the Nvidia card.

Just out of interest how many RTX games do you play now and how many have you got your heart set on in 2020 ? It's probably better to argue about 6GB rather than 8GB for games than whether you can do ray tracing at the moment....