That's like asking why is water wet or does god really exist. Some things are better left unanswered.

Btw, the claim about the ssd damage is false. Comment from the page about the SSD damage. "You didn't even do the testing yourself, get lost. I just checked with Process Explorer and it had about 100 disk writes after 1 hour game play you are just another pathetic journalist who doesn't review sources or even bothers to test it himself."

I uh, I'm pretty sure water is wet because its a liquid

a locksmith once told me that locks are there to keep 99% of the good people honest, and there are 1% of people that don't care about that lock and are going to commit the crime. I really hope that the DRM investment is worth all the money they are spending to develop and maintain it.

That's like asking why is water wet or does god really exist. Some things are better left unanswered.

The first one is actually an interesting question and leads us to learn things about how molecules adhere to each other and all sorts of fun things. I can't logically state whether the second question is better left unanswered or not because we don't know what the effects of a conclusive answer would be. But in life, I have found it better to know an answer and deal with it, than remain ignorant. So to the OP, here's a very quick answer. The essential reason why it's very difficult to make uncrackable software, is because the software needs to run to be useful. If you could send an encrypted lump of binary to the customer then you'd have your unhackable software. But unfortunately it has to be readable and runnable. Once you make that concession, it becomes very difficult. You start having to do things like add lines to your code that say: "if(registrationKey == valid)", i.e. do something if they have a valid registration key do something, otherwise do something else. But then crackers will search through the code and look for the bits that check and then remove them or alter them and save a new version of the program that doesn't have it. So you get ever sneakier and you find ways to disguise or hide that check and you make lots of them and you do things like put part of the code on a server of your own so that they can't get at it to change it (an online verification). But they find them, or they re-write bits so that it doesn't need that online verification any more. So long as they have access to your code - i.e. it's not all online - then it's very hard to stop them altering it and if they can alter it, it's very hard to stop them eventually finding all the traps you put in there to stop it running if it isn't legitimate.

Legitimate question. Why doesn't hack proof software exist? Why can everything be hacked?

Software is written by man. Man is foulable and thus, so is software.

Software is written by man. Man is foulable and thus, so is software.

Actually, some of it is written by quite intelligent women, thanks. 😉 EDIT: I think you may also mean fallible. I don't really want to think of men fouling themselves. : (

Actually, some of it is written by quite intelligent women, thanks. 😉

My use of the term "man" isn't intended to be gender specific, but more as a reference to species (since "man" is commonly used as an "all-encompassing" term when referring to humans).... Rather sad that I would need to explain that.....

My use of the term "man" isn't intended to be gender specific, but more as a reference to species (since "man" is commonly used as an "all-encompassing" term when referring to humans).... Rather sad that I would need to explain that.....

Yes, I'm familiar with the convention of using "man" to mean people. I'm gently pointing out that it excludes about half of us and there are perfectly handy words such as "people" and "humans".

Meh ... it was inevitable. Dragon Age was a big enough game to motivate them further. It's like the old securom days again. Then they'll come up with a harder protection and the cat and mouse game will continue. I won't support the inclusion of any kind of drm, even if it allegedly is a simple lock on the executable, beyond the standard logins we have with steam, battle.net and the other copy cats which followed.

...I feel like these conversations are all over the place.... Let's keep it in line people.

a locksmith once told me that locks are there to keep 99% of the good people honest, and there are 1% of people that don't care about that lock and are going to commit the crime. I really hope that the DRM investment is worth all the money they are spending to develop and maintain it.

That is right, lock never stop someone determined to enter. But as for games and "worth" of DRM. I look at those free to play games with ethical micro transactions (visuals). They do not need DRM, people love them because they are good and for support they get something extra to their liking. Good Free to play can make much more money than bad DRM protected game. And there is another look at it. Player base. There are children whose parents can't afford $1000 computer and then $60 per month for games. If those don't pirate game, one can say its fair, no pay no play. But then such child may find another way to spend its time, never to return to PC gaming = no payment potential once child grows.

This was inevitable, these companies waste too much time and money on crappy DRM instead of making decent games. I saw people freaking out that GTA 5 wouldn't get mods because it might use this "unbreakable DRM" (which it turns out it won't use this anyway, but even if it did it wouldn't have mattered). I couldn't help but laugh.

Yes, I'm familiar with the convention of using "man" to mean people. I'm gently pointing out that it excludes about half of us and there are perfectly handy words such as "people" and "humans".

If you were familiar with that you would realize that it DOESN'T exclude half of anyone because it has absolutely nothing to do with gender. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_(word)

Guys, come on. No more warnings.

i live in iran, my salary is 200 USD in month, i can save about 10 USD per month, so it really hard to buy a 60 USD PC game, so i need 6 month saving to buy one. i hope someday thay give us the chance to buy the games with cheaper price.

I saw people freaking out that GTA 5 wouldn't get mods because it might use this "unbreakable DRM"

Uh GTA5 won't have 'official' mod support because it's on line section is more persistent and much more tied to the shark card investment and the trickle stream of 'free' content that Rockstar have been releasing in a bid to bump shark card sales. GTA4 never had official mod support but Rockstar didn't care when it got hacked because it had no long term money tied in to the online part of the game. As for this 'DRM' being cracked, does it matter? I thought the entire purpose of DRM was to protect day one sales, which this did. No matter the company behind this most likely already has a version 2 and 3 in the wings waiting for when version 1 got cracked.

Anything that is offline will be cracked, guaranteed. Its been perfected over the last 35 years. If im wrong then bookmark this thread and feel free to quote me when the time comes. I wont hold my breath cause i know the bobby.....;) Better contact FAST and ask for Bob Hayes to see if he can help even though he probably retired about 15-20 years ago, the last true crusader against software piracy 😀 Close thread.

It also proves how much demo's are a waste of time and money on the pc platform as fifa has one.

now thats not true, i for one am not buying the game just because demo is quite enough for such a game 🙂 on the other hand, PES2015 looks like a great soccer game in a very long time.

Anything that is offline will be cracked, guaranteed.

Even games that use online functions can be cracked, it's all about taking those offline or local.

i live in iran, my salary is 200 USD in month, i can save about 10 USD per month, so it really hard to buy a 60 USD PC game, so i need 6 month saving to buy one. i hope someday thay give us the chance to buy the games with cheaper price.

Not an excuse for using cracked software thou. If you can't afford it you do not play the latest newest games and wait until they go on sale, simple as that. How could you afford your PC btw.?