Well I'm at least glad that the prices are coming down. I'm going to buy me a 9590 (don't care about tdp or what other bs marketeers tout), just waiting for the chipsets that can better handle that chip; was waiting for the x99 & i7 5960x but my earlier combination of x79 & i7 3960x was such a pain that I don't want to deal with Intel anymore at this time.

I wouldn't mind getting myself one of those FX 6300's and overclocking it a bit.

True, yet again you can't go performance gaming with it. Still I consider it for a friend's htpc build I'll be building in the next month, so those new FX ones might come in handy too.

Good luck on downgrade/ worst choice of the year!

I'm speaking from experience, to get the 8350 up to the same speed as the 9590 causes stability issues and tons of heat (close to 72c). My H105 couldn't control the temp, I got my hands on a 9590 from Dabs at a decent price and it runs around 10-15 degrees celsius cooler, never getting above 55c under full load with no stability issues. I've also seen a boost of 5-8 fps in games with a general better consistency in frame rates. I also got my hands on R9 2400 Gamer Series ram and set it up to use the D.O.C.P profile getting around 4-5 fps more in games. So if you want to get the most out of your AM3+ socket motherboard get a FX-9000. Just make sure you have a good water cooler if you get the OEM version (no cooler included) or get the version that now has a water cooler included.

I have yet to see an 83xx that won't hit at least 4.7ghz. On air.

I will have to disagree with your statement saying that AMD should stick with making better Apus/i-Gpu. It is about time for AMD to release a new CPU architecture,focusing more in per core performance to finally be able to compete against Intel or even surpass their current or upcoming CPU's in performance. While Intel can't compete at the moment with AMD's powerful i-Gpu's, it is the other way around for their Cpu's. If i remember correctly AMD's last CPU that was great and surpassed Intel was their Athlon series,until Intel launched their s775 Core 2 duo and quads. Since then about 8 years ago which is a very long time Intel was and still is the only way to go for us power users seeking for High performing CPU's. The Phenom II X4 was the last good CPU AMD released if i remember correctly. Personally i hate the current situation when i have to upgrade my CPU and Intel being the only way to go while current AMD 8 core processors with their great pricing sound good to the ear for an average user on a tight budget they are just too way behind on per core performance and with high TDP to go along with it. The lack of competition sucks for us users as Intel without any pressure from AMD is throwing at us minor upgrades in Cpu performance along with new sockets and chipsets almost every year. It's just sad for me the way things are for PC enthusiasts who love to upgrade their hardware frequently making them throw money away to Intel for minor increases in performance. The current state in this department is not that exciting for me any more, i mean i love upgrading to all new hardware and playing around with Overclocking but with all these minor cpu performance upgrades along with new sockets has made me lose interest and i find it a waste of money having to invest in a new Motherboard to get a new Cpu with a small percentage increase that will be almost unnoticeable in every day usage. The only thing left at the moment that is still exciting for me is new GPU's. I just love upgrading to each new series of GPU's when i can and at least that is one department that AMD is still competitive with their products against Nvidia. Above all we get very good performance increases of around 40% each new generation...... I personally can't wait until next year when most of the all new next gen games will start appearing along with the Unreal 4 engine. But first i want to get an idea of roughly how taxing they will be on the PC and their VRAM usage before i decide what single Gpu will be powerful enough to sustain at least most of the times 60fps at 1080p before upgrading my GTX 770 2gb.

Speaking out of personal experience. Keeping any 83xx running at 100% load for more than 1 hour takes some serious tweaking or a golden CPU. Simply because packet temp will go way beyond recommended temps very quickly (~ 70 deg. C) and there is no easy way to cool the CPU socket on the backside of the motherboard. I had my 8320 running @ 4.7 but had to have a fan blowing on the back of the motherboard (through holes in the backplate) but still couldn't keep temps in check when running a BLURay encode for 4 hours. It got waaay to hot.