AMD Ryzen 9 5900X would have 12 cores and Yes ZEN3 would be Series 5000

Published by

Click here to post a comment for AMD Ryzen 9 5900X would have 12 cores and Yes ZEN3 would be Series 5000 on our message forum
data/avatar/default/avatar03.webp
8 core 1 ccx. this is my next CPU 😀 my B550 is ready 😀
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/250/250418.jpg
I know the generations between desktop and mobile didn't match, but I wasn't bothered by it. I'm disappointed AMD can't count numbers right, just another kid that skipped math I guess!
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/254/254132.jpg
Silva:

I know the generations between desktop and mobile didn't match, but I wasn't bothered by it. I'm disappointed AMD can't count numbers right, just another kid that skipped math I guess!
Yeah that's exactly why they would start with 5 instead of 4... Because they can't count...
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/248/248994.jpg
Silva:

I know the generations between desktop and mobile didn't match, but I wasn't bothered by it. I'm disappointed AMD can't count numbers right, just another kid that skipped math I guess!
Even if they are series of numbers, they are still names, nothing more. The numbers are only there so that consumers could easily compare a certain CPU to another CPU, typically so that the bigger the number, the better (and more expensive) the processor. Which brings us back to the fact that it's great if the numbers indeed are comparable. If AMD does skip 4xxx for the desktop, it's to make them better comparable.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/242/242471.jpg
A 8core 5800x would be more then enough for my needs. Hopefully that latency with single 8core die delivers 🙂
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/246/246171.jpg
I really don't understand why AMD struggles so much with marketing. Do they ever ask the opinions of anyone who isn't a diehard fan? Anyway, I'd be a little surprised if there is no 5950X, though I personally don't care since I don't intend to get one. If I'm going to get Zen3, I'll probably opt for 8c/16t.
heffeque:

Personally, I think it's the correct move. No mixing of some Ryzen 4000 with Zen 2 cores and other Ryzen 4000 with Zen 3 cores.
Well... this doesn't mean we aren't going to see a 6000 series with Zen3 APUs.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/156/156348.jpg
Interesting. Will they harmonize the naming scheme of their mobile and desktop cpus so all 5k desktop and laptop cpus will be Zen 3?
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/216/216349.jpg
I´m sure the next Ryzen version is going to be great but i don´t want to buy another dead end platform so i think i´m going to skipp it and wait for the next Ryzen
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/212/212018.jpg
H83:

I´m sure the next Ryzen version is going to be great but i don´t want to buy another dead end platform so i think i´m going to skipp it and wait for the next Ryzen
More than dead i think it is in the right spot for a 5 year build (thats what i aim for at least). Probably bios issues are fixed, platform is stable and on point (ccx working as intended, drivers mature, etc) and wont have any major change coming to f it up. Next gen with new DDR5, chipset, etc. may be a sh***t show as ryzen first gen was for the first months and on the intel side of things... well... we will see whats coming and how far they go in 2022? 2023?
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/256/256969.jpg
With DDR5, i'm concerned that not only pricing is gonna be atrocious, but you might have a year of beta testing, flashing bios updates regularly etc...
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/270/270008.jpg
schmidtbag:

I really don't understand why AMD struggles so much with marketing. Do they ever ask the opinions of anyone who isn't a diehard fan? Anyway, I'd be a little surprised if there is no 5950X, though I personally don't care since I don't intend to get one. If I'm going to get Zen3, I'll probably opt for 8c/16t. Well... this doesn't mean we aren't going to see a 6000 series with Zen3 APUs.
Yeah they truly suck at marketing. Hopefully they start getting enough extra revenue to focus on other things than just engineering. Well heck even engineering as they are building APU's with last gen designs because they don't have the manpower to build the APU concurently.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/270/270008.jpg
XenthorX:

With DDR5, i'm concerned that not only pricing is gonna be atrocious, but you might have a year of beta testing, flashing bios updates regularly etc...
Yeah it will be a mess and probably not much faster at first. I'm going to upgrade to Zen3 if its as good as expected and ride out my DDR4 past the first couple generations of DDR5.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/156/156348.jpg
Silva:

I know the generations between desktop and mobile didn't match, but I wasn't bothered by it. I'm disappointed AMD can't count numbers right, just another kid that skipped math I guess!
To be fair i don't think one strategy is better than the other. By nature laptop APUs will always be less powerful than the current desktop equivalent. So either you take the previous gen desktop CPUs and bring them to laptop with some improvement/binning and use the same naming scheme as the current desktop CPUs (which many find misleading but is it?) or you gimp the current desktop CPUs and bring them to laptop. At the end of the day the result is pretty much the same the laptop APUs will be gimped because of the form factor of the device. But many people complained about it being misleading so would make sense for AMD to adapt it's strategy even if the end result in term of performance will be the same.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/156/156348.jpg
JamesSneed:

Yeah it will be a mess and probably not much faster at first. I'm going to upgrade to Zen3 if its as good as expected and ride out my DDR4 past the first couple generations of DDR5.
Yup currently running a 1800x on a x370 and will probably upgrade to Ryzen 3 on a b550 and call it a day for a couple of years. Don't mind too much changing the MB as it has been unstable this summer during very hot days for whatever reason probably vram running hot dunno.
Goiur:

More than dead i think it is in the right spot for a 5 year build (thats what i aim for at least). Probably bios issues are fixed, platform is stable and on point (ccx working as intended, drivers mature, etc) and wont have any major change coming to f it up. Next gen with new DDR5, chipset, etc. may be a sh***t show as ryzen first gen was for the first months and on the intel side of things... well... we will see whats coming and how far they go in 2022? 2023?
Don't know about b550 but x370 has been very stable for me for a long while. Well outside of when my app get to 27 Celsius in the summer. I should probably add a couple of fans to my case i suppose.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/225/225084.jpg
Zen 3 5800X only needs to be 15% better IPC and it will match or even beat Intels flagship cpus. I have no doubt AMD will overtake Intel once again in the cpu performance crown. Very exciting times for us waiting on an upgrade and AMD might just smash it out the park. I read a rumor somewhere of a 5700X 8c/16t with a 45w TDP. That'll be the chip i'll get for sure.
data/avatar/default/avatar05.webp
Reddoguk:

Zen 3 5800X only needs to be 15% better IPC and it will match or even beat Intels flagship cpus. I have no doubt AMD will overtake Intel once again in the cpu performance crown. Very exciting times for us waiting on an upgrade and AMD might just smash it out the park. I read a rumor somewhere of a 5700X 8c/16t with a 45w TDP. That'll be the chip i'll get for sure.
LOL only 15%. 15% Would be a lot of IPC increase. That would be great.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/270/270008.jpg
MonstroMart:

Yup currently running a 1800x on a x370 and will probably upgrade to Ryzen 3 on a b550 and call it a day for a couple of years. Don't mind too much changing the MB as it has been unstable this summer during very hot days for whatever reason probably vram running hot dunno. Don't know about b550 but x370 has been very stable for me for a long while. Well outside of when my app get to 27 Celsius in the summer. I should probably add a couple of fans to my case i suppose.
Same running a 1800x on a x370 with no OC except memory is 3200Mhz with very tight timings. I don't know if AMD will release new boards or what but I'll very likely do MB + CPU as well. The x370 board has been rock stable so I have no complaints in fact I would likely pop in a Zen3 CPU if it was to be supported which I'm sure it wont.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/270/270008.jpg
asturur:

LOL only 15%. 15% Would be a lot of IPC increase. That would be great.
Yeah people are funny putting only in front of 15% IPC uplift. If they do get that and the 8-core CCX reduces latency like I think it will the 8-core chips are going to be gaming beasts.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/156/156348.jpg
JamesSneed:

Same running a 1800x on a x370 with no OC except memory is 3200Mhz with very tight timings. I don't know if AMD will release new boards or what but I'll very likely do MB + CPU as well. The x370 board has been rock stable so I have no complaints in fact I would likely pop in a Zen3 CPU if it was to be supported which I'm sure it wont.
I don't think it will. It's a 3+ years old MB. I mean the fact it supports 3 generations of CPUs is already good imo. My plan was to buy a 3900x at a reduced price when zen 3 was released but my system going unstable this summer sealed the deal. The temp of the CPU and GPU were perfectly fine and the system has been perfectly stable since summer ended so pretty sure it's the vram since i changed the PSU this summer and this did not help. Maybe after 3 years the thermal pads on the vram are not doing their job as well as the previous 3 summers my app is getting very hot so there was probably not much room for higher temp to begin with. Could try to remove the vram heatsink and apply thermal paste next summer but well after 3 years of good service i decided to just buy a b550 and upgrade to the new Ryzen 3.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/248/248902.jpg
Wish they stopped milking and increased the x700/x800 to 16c already.