warlord:

It is my will and wishing list to ask and demand a gpu faster than what I already have by a generous margin under 399$. At least NVidia still have a card to play called 2060 if it will ever happen. And if it does, it will be equal or faster than 980ti/1070. AMD, gave me one of the same (or shame to be honest). I have any right to bitch about the obvious. This 590, should be between Fury and Vega. Period.

290X was high end and did cost $549. Refreshed by same chip in form of 390X (5% increased clock) for $429 and still considered high end. RX-480 was meant to be mainstream and came at $229, refreshed by RX-580 (6% increased clock; currently sold with 15% increased clock) at same $229. To sum it up: 20 months after release of R9-290X, you got ~5% more at 22% lower price in form of R9-390X 12 months after release of R9-390X, you got ~5% more at 47% lower price in form of RX-480 9 months after release of RX-480, you got ~10% more at 0% lower price in form of RX-580 Normalizing this information to price evolution over time at certain performance class, I can say that Polaris did better than Hawaii. And it is 2.9 times cheaper at given performance. But it is to be expected as it is smaller (fewer transistors) mainstream chip at smaller node.

1060 6gb (2016) gtx came three years after 780ti (2013) to beat it at 100% at very cheap price. 290x 8gb (2014)as overclocked it is like 390x surpassed finally 4 years after launch by 590(2018). Meaning AMD needed a whole 1 year more than Nvidia to provide a proper midrange gpu. My angered question is why they lost time by refreshing twice the same thing? I felt like being trapped in this situation. Nvidia gives a refresh 1060. No hope for mid range in new condition with proper strength, they are forcing people to seek used gpus more often than ever before.

warlord:

1060 6gb (2016) gtx came three years after 780ti (2013) to beat it at 100% at very cheap price. 290x 8gb (2014)as overclocked it is like 390x surpassed finally 4 years after launch by 590(2018). Meaning AMD needed a whole 1 year more than Nvidia to provide a proper midrange gpu. My angered question is why they lost time by refreshing twice the same thing? I felt like being trapped in this situation. Nvidia gives a refresh 1060. No hope for mid range in new condition with proper strength, they are forcing people to seek used gpus more often than ever before.

Those are $699 (780Ti) and $299 (1060 6G) GPUs. Put them into relevance of price normalized to performance point of r9-290X as I did above, and they will look bad. GTX 1060 came within 1 month's time from RX-480. 1060 was definitely better card from business perspective. (14% smaller = cheaper to make, 10% faster due to clock, 31% more expensive because market ate it.) As of your anger, nVidia reacts to market and does not bring you cheaper HW than they have to. So being angry on AMD that they did not bring new GPU yet? Happens. Maybe if more people bought some decent version of RX-480 as it was card with greatest value at given time... No, AMD needed crypto-minors to get decent sales. And one is surprised that they release card which may prove to be ready for next wave. (But Bitcoin does exactly what I said it will.) RX-590 is not good value card, that's for sure. But it will not harm AMD in smallest. = = = = And I'll add you little detail: Here RX-590 costs about same as did RX-580 three months ago. RX-580 is now 22% cheaper, and GTX 1060 followed.

Worse die shrink ever, no performance per watt improvements, also has memory bottleneck, it need faster stock memory greetings

RX590 are the fastest cards in the price group up to $ 300. For 25 $ we get a 20% faster card than the GTX 1060. In addition, we get free FreeSync, which for mainstreem cards makes a huge difference. I completely do not understand why these cards have been criticized.

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Is there any particular reason why the last 2 AMD video cards reviewed have no guru rating?

Honestly, not much to give on the card. A very decent binned 480 even can come close or match the card in clocks. What this card tells me, and utilizing Vega20 instead of having something else ready is development from AMD is slow right now. Although Polaris is a very decent architecture. What I don't understand, is why not rework this card with faster GDDR6 memory? Or even increase the shader count if possible? I don't think it's a bad card, but it's not a great one for the price. If it were at say 580 pricing or just a little over, it wouldn't be so bad.

Only other reviews I recall seeing without ratings were pretty much broken, you even give ratings to items that were acknowledged to be overpriced.