New Details of the AMD Ryzen 7 8700F and Ryzen 5 8400F (updated)

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AMD is set to expand its desktop processor offerings with the Ryzen 7 8700F and Ryzen 5 8400F, targeting the retail Processor in Box (PIB) channel. These CPUs are based on the 4 nm "Hawk Point" or "Phoenix 2" technology and feature the "Zen 4" microarchitecture. Notably, both models have the integrated graphics processing unit (iGPU) disabled, indicated by the "F" suffix in the model names. The Ryzen 7 8700F is built with an 8-core/16-thread configuration. It is similar to the 8700G model but operates at slightly lower clock speeds, achieving up to 5.00 GHz boost compared to the 8700G's 5.10 GHz. Despite the disabled iGPU, the processor maintains an active Neural Processing Unit (NPU), which delivers 16 AI TOPS (Tera Operations Per Second). The thermal design power (TDP) for the 8700F remains at 65 watts, consistent with the 8700G.

The Ryzen 5 8400F utilizes the "Phoenix 2" silicon and includes 6 CPU cores, composed of two "Zen 4" cores capable of reaching up to 4.70 GHz boost frequency and four "Zen 4c" cores that operate at lower speeds. This processor does not feature an NPU, and like the 8700F, has a disabled iGPU. It also maintains a 65-watt TDP.Both processors come packaged with AMD's Wraith Stealth cooler, designed to handle the thermal requirements of 65-watt TDP CPUs.

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Performance benchmarks provided by AMD suggest the Ryzen 7 8700F can deliver gaming performance that ranges from 10% to 24% higher than the Intel Core i5-14400F across various tests. Similarly, the Ryzen 5 8400F is reported to outperform the Intel Core i5-13400F by 1% to 14% in gaming scenarios.


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While AMD has not yet officially released these processors, their market introduction appears to be imminent. It is anticipated that the pricing for both the Ryzen 7 8700F and Ryzen 5 8400F will be significantly lower than their counterparts, the 8700G and 8500G, respectively.

Update: AMD has formally announced the processors. These new models are variations of the Ryzen 8000-series desktop APUs, differentiated primarily by their disabled integrated graphics. The Ryzen 7 8700F, although lacking an integrated GPU, features a Ryzen AI Neural Processing Unit (NPU) capable of delivering up to 16 AI TOPS of performance. Unlike the 8700F, the Ryzen 5 8400F does not include an NPU.

The Ryzen 7 8700F is equipped with an 8-core/16-thread CPU based on the "Zen 4" architecture. It has a slightly lower maximum boost frequency of 5.00 GHz compared to the 8700G, which reaches 5.10 GHz. Both models share the same Thermal Design Power (TDP) of 65 watts, and they come with a Wraith Stealth cooler included in the retail package.

The Ryzen 5 8400F features a 6-core/12-thread configuration. This processor utilizes the "Phoenix 2" silicon, which includes two "Zen 4" cores capable of achieving up to a 4.40 GHz boost frequency, and four "Zen 4c" cores that have a lower boost capability. Despite the difference in core types, both maintain identical Instructions Per Cycle (IPC) and Instruction Set Architecture (ISA). AMD's Chipset Software optimizes performance by using UEFI CPPC preferred cores software flags to prioritize tasks to the faster "Zen 4" cores.

During the launch, AMD positioned the Ryzen 7 8700F as providing competitive gaming and productivity performance relative to Intel's Core i5-14400F. Similarly, the Ryzen 5 8400F is touted to match the gaming performance of Intel's i5-13400F. AMD has set the price for the Ryzen 7 8700F at $269, which is $60 less than its counterpart with integrated graphics, the 8700G. The Ryzen 5 8400F is priced at $169, making it $10 cheaper than the 8500G.

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