While it was already known that 7nm Vega refresh will come out first, i was really hoping for a Navi preview. Tho, I must say that the Vega performance surprised me a bit. Wasn't expecting them to even have a gaming version of the card, let alone matching the 2000 series. That 60%+ openCL compute perf increase and 16 gig 1TB bandwidth mem should do some crazy numbers with mining as well.

D3M1G0D:

I'm curious about the layout though. It seems like they could fit another 7nm chiplet underneath. Not sure what that empty space is for otherwise.

Yeah I'm sure somewhere down the road they have plans to fit another chiplet there. Perhaps an iGPU? In another light, maybe they're trying to discourage people from delidding their CPUs haha.

UnrealGaming:

That 60%+ openCL compute perf increase and 16 gig 1TB bandwidth mem should do some crazy numbers with mining as well.

Nooo... don't jinx it man! :P

Not quite the announcement I was expecting. Only thing that makes think is AMD not trying to show all their cards at once, and catch rivals off guard once they come to market so there is no rival product for a while, cementing their next position. I guess unbridled hype will lead to downfall? I would prob get that new Vega card however. Gaming (mining not too fussed) but 16gb HBM2 with improved clocks and reduced power consumption sounds quite tasty. Would love to see some real life benchmarks.

tunejunky:

1) Radeon VII on games i've played has done just as well as RTX 2080 ti. in real world conditions it is probably in-between 2080 and 2080ti. 2) nothing is wrong with Vega cores and this is not rebaked in any sense. the power draw is way down, the clock speeds are almost 50% higher (1850MHz) this is far better than just a die shrink, it is 2nd generation AND a die shrink.

What!? You got a Radeon VII???!! It's not launched yet is it??!

D3M1G0D:

I'm curious about the layout though. It seems like they could fit another 7nm chiplet underneath. Not sure what that empty space is for otherwise.

Fox2232:

Thinking about Ryzen again. They did show 8C/16T for reason. To have core count same on both systems. IT actually does not mean there may not be 12C/24T And because CPU core is offset, there can be 2nd one at other free corner.

Yep, does look like there's just about enough space for another CPU die underneath that other one. With 2 CPU dies though it might not be quite as good a gaming CPU though because extra cores & heat so maybe lower frequency, and maybe there's some kind of latency associated with 2 die (like seen on previous gen Ryzen when they have more than one die).

Robbo9999:

Yep, does look like there's just about enough space for another CPU die underneath that other one. With 2 CPU dies though it might not be quite as good a gaming CPU though because extra cores & heat so maybe lower frequency, and maybe there's some kind of latency associated with 2 die (like seen on previous gen Ryzen when they have more than one die).

I was thinking about it too, but then I remembered size of that I/O die. It is kind of big to be made for handling of just one 8C/16T.

Fox2232:

I was thinking about it too, but then I remembered size of that I/O die. It is kind of big to be made for handling of just one 8C/16T.

Yeah, maybe there wouldn't be the extra latency with an extra CPU die with that IO core being there on the package, it's a different design to the previous Ryzen chips, so maybe the same rules don't apply.