Warcraft III: Reforged is Now Live + System Requirements

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anticupidon

2020-01-29 08:42

Remake is the new gold rush.

#5755363

FrostNixon

2020-01-29 10:18

anticupidon:

Remake is the new gold rush.

That's what you do when you can't make a good product anymore.

#5755365

Undying

2020-01-29 10:21

Even the nostalgia cant save Warcraft universe now.

#5755380

Kaarme

2020-01-29 11:05

They should have remade the first and second Warcrafts. The third one is still perfectly playable graphics wise, plus it's a native Windows game. The first and second ones were DOS games originally. Could you even play them anymore on Win10 if you wanted to? Naturally their graphics would also benefit a whole lot more from modernisation than Warcraft 3's.

#5755383

GSDragoon

2020-01-29 11:16

Can you play the same custom maps from the original? Gem TD was the best.

#5755384

Astyanax

2020-01-29 11:17

Kaarme:

The first and second ones were DOS games originally

Warcraft 2 BNE is Win32 and works on 7, 8, 10.

#5755387

FrostNixon

2020-01-29 11:29

Kaarme:

They should have remade the first and second Warcrafts. The third one is still perfectly playable graphics wise, plus it's a native Windows game. The first and second ones were DOS games originally. Could you even play them anymore on Win10 if you wanted to? Naturally their graphics would also benefit a whole lot more from modernisation than Warcraft 3's.

Yeah but the first two are more effort and we know bliz.

#5755393

warlord

2020-01-29 11:55

It is even worse than Starcraft Remastered. I won't even bother to buy it, let alone install it.

#5755396

Undying

2020-01-29 11:59

Im waiting to see if the fuck up the Diablo IV and if they do im done with Blizzard.

#5755419

H83

2020-01-29 13:21

I really like the game and i wouldn´t mind buying the remake but only for 10€ at best, no more.

#5755427

Netherwind

2020-01-29 13:39

H83:

I really like the game and i wouldn´t mind buying the remake but only for 10€ at best, no more.

Considering the small effort they made with this remaster I completely agree.

#5755433

Ricepudding

2020-01-29 13:53

Kaarme:

They should have remade the first and second Warcrafts. The third one is still perfectly playable graphics wise, plus it's a native Windows game. The first and second ones were DOS games originally. Could you even play them anymore on Win10 if you wanted to? Naturally their graphics would also benefit a whole lot more from modernisation than Warcraft 3's.

Yes you can play them on w10, I recently played and completed them using the GOG versions, Though i agree remakes of this would have been amazing, though i believe they were remade in the wc3 engine by people, along with a bunch of other customer campaigns

#5755441

RavenMaster

2020-01-29 14:15

What they really need to do is make a Warcraft IV RTS game on a brand new game engine. The trouble with the SC1 and WC3 remakes is that they still largely use the game's old original engines and programming. This means all the bad unit pathing problems are carried over to the remakes. Take a look at Starcraft 2's game engine - better graphics than Starcraft 1, can select tons more units at once and automatically place them into sub groups to make them easier to select. And pathing is much better because units move out of the way of each other and go around the scenery instead of getting stuck. Blizzard's excuse for sticking with the original pathing/programming is for balance reasons and authenticity. To me that's just counterproductive in this day and age. They made the pathing improvements in the Starcraft 2 engine for a reason. That reason being - bad pathing is bad programming and ruins the fun and dynamics of the game. Taking a step backwards from that is just dumb and will not help carry RTS into the future. They need to build on their improvements not take steps backwards. Warcraft IV could fix that.

#5755446

rl66

2020-01-29 14:29

Astyanax:

Warcraft 2 BNE is Win32 and works on 7, 8, 10.

I can add that both are on GOG and work fine on windows 10 (i have both lol): 11,89 Euro for the pack WC 1 + 2 BNE

#5755452

Denial

2020-01-29 14:42

RavenMaster:

What they really need to do is make a Warcraft IV RTS game on a brand new game engine. The trouble with the SC1 and WC3 remakes is that they still largely use the game's old original engines and programming. This means all the bad unit pathing problems are carried over to the remakes. Take a look at Starcraft 2's game engine - better graphics than Starcraft 1, can select tons more units at once and automatically place them into sub groups to make them easier to select. And pathing is much better because units move out of the way of each other and go around the scenery instead of getting stuck. Blizzard's excuse for sticking with the original pathing/programming is for balance reasons and authenticity. To me that's just counterproductive in this day and age. They made the pathing improvements in the Starcraft 2 engine for a reason. That reason being - bad pathing is bad programming and ruins the fun and dynamics of the game. Taking a step backwards from that is just dumb and will not help carry RTS into the future. They need to build on their improvements not take steps backwards. Warcraft IV could fix that.

I agree that going forward it should use a new engine and strip the bad mechanics but I disagree that the remakes should fix the mechanics of the older titles. In a lot of the pro scenes those mechanics are what separated the great players from the bad ones - it acted as a barrier of entry and some of the really nuanced mechanics for example ([youtube=1Rqx8s2qKXM]) allowed extremely good players to show off their micro/macro to gain small advantages over opponents that couldn't perform at that level. I think that skill ceiling is what made games like SC1/SC2/WC3 so interesting to watch/play at a high level.

#5755458

GlennB

2020-01-29 14:58

After seeing some gameplay footage i already knew i was not going to buy this. WC3 is fine because it's cartoony style still works today but this refresh ughhh.

#5755468

Bender82

2020-01-29 15:25

OMG Windows Recommended Requirements Resolution 800 x 600 minimum display resolution who plays in that resolution ? :-p

#5755477

H83

2020-01-29 15:36

By the way, does the remake supports ultrawide screens??? I´ve bought the latest part of SC2 only to find out that it doesn´t support ultrawide monitors, something that made me angry, so angry i didn´t touch the game anymore...

#5755492

SamuelL421

2020-01-29 16:19

Reforged is fine and looks great, but it is WC3 - don't go in expecting something new. If you're interested, I'd wait a week to buy until they sort out a few campaign bugs though.

rl66:

I can add that both are on GOG and work fine on windows 10 (i have both lol): 11,89 Euro for the pack WC 1 + 2 BNE

I'll second this, I picked these up from GOG and had a blast replaying them. WC1 controls are bit jank by today's standards but WC2 is as good as any new RTS you can buy.

#5755507

kakiharaFRS

2020-01-29 16:40

Bender82:

OMG Resolution 800 x 600 minimum display resolution who plays in that resolution ? 😛

we ask ! of Guru3d that it now benchmarks all hardware in 800x600 😛