Upcoming Ryzen 2.0 (Pinnacle Ridge) Will Get Soldered Heatspreader

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Oh AMD, you just keep getting better and better. Keep the lights on baby, i'm coming home!
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I was originally upgrading at the ryzen 1, but now i'm thinking i can wait until this release.
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I was going to get a 6c/12t ryzen+ but now i'm even more excited. Can't wait, it will be a day one buy for me.
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The TIM on Raven Ridge was only to save on cost, as the 2200G and 2400G are budget parts and only rated for 65W. For their high-end parts, they will continue to user solder, which is pretty much what was expected - those paying the premium for these chips deserve the best cooling option.
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That's almost certainly my next upgrade right there. Farewell Ivy Bridge and farewell delidding.
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AMD might not have the best hardware, but they sure do make good decisions I as a customer like.
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D3M1G0D:

The TIM on Raven Ridge was only to save on cost, as the 2200G and 2400G are budget parts and only rated for 65W. For their high-end parts, they will continue to user solder, which is pretty much what was expected - those paying the premium for these chips deserve the best cooling option.
Yep, from what I've read it's only Intel using paste on their cpus, unless they've changed that in response to AMD going solder with Ryzen cpus. (2xxx G's are APUs, not technically cpus...;))
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I just hope there is one X470 mATX board with one PCI slot at launch time.
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waltc3:

Yep, from what I've read it's only Intel using paste on their cpus, unless they've changed that in response to AMD going solder with Ryzen cpus. (2xxx G's are APUs, not technically cpus...;))
I doubt Intel will ever change on that. As long as their customers are willing to put up with the TIM (and delidding) then they'll continue using it. People vote with their wallets, and every time an Intel CPU (that uses TIM) is sold Intel receives a signal that TIM is acceptable, so why change?
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Fox2232:

I just hope there is one X470 mATX board with one PCI slot at launch time.
Don't bet on it. I predict PCI slots will pretty much be completely phased out in 2-3 years. If you need it that badly, might think about getting something like this: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Mini-PCIe-to-2-external-pci_1890717704.html Though obviously that ends up taking more room and i can only assume you want to take up less room since you want mATX
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Does that equal +4GHz overclocks without the need for exotic cooling?
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Aura89:

Don't bet on it. I predict PCI slots will pretty much be completely phased out in 2-3 years. If you need it that badly, might think about getting something like this: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Mini-PCIe-to-2-external-pci_1890717704.html Though obviously that ends up taking more room and i can only assume you want to take up less room since you want mATX
I have PCIe to PCI convertors in mind as last resort. There are cheaper versions for mounting into case. But it is for Soundcard. I did not evade STX with PCIe2PCI bridge on board (reducing sound quality) just to have it on standalone PCIe2PCI bridge. In that case I can just pay whole price for STU (New USB version).
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i suspect the x470 chipset will allow for more pcie connectivity...mebbe even plx
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Nothing really new, just as expected, at least to me. Another great option is coming in april. It's good for everybody.
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That roadmap pic is bugging me. "Zen 2 Improves on zen in multiple dimensions" Does this mean that we will need new socket because dimensions will be bigger/smaller or CPUs will get improvements in some AMD dimensions only (which does not include dimension where we live)?! 😀
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Depending on the reviews this might make me go back to AMD, after having switched to Intel in 2008.
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D3M1G0D:

The TIM on Raven Ridge was only to save on cost, as the 2200G and 2400G are budget parts and only rated for 65W. For their high-end parts, they will continue to user solder, which is pretty much what was expected - those paying the premium for these chips deserve the best cooling option.
And Skylake-X and Kabylake-X both use TIM, not solder. Those paying the premium for these chips deserve the best but Intel is not giving it to them.
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southamptonfc:

And Skylake-X and Kabylake-X both use TIM, not solder. Those paying the premium for these chips deserve the best but Intel is not giving it to them.
i may just cheer for your squad vs. Brighton