nizzen:

1100$ canadian is like 900$ Us?

Converting from Canadian dollars. 7600X - 323€ 7700X - 467€ 7900X - 593€ 7950X - 870€ As far as I know, in Canada published prices don't include taxes.

Well, looks like 7900X and 7950X are now effectively HEDTs, then. Definitely priced out of reach of gamers. 600€ + VAT is mighty expensive for a 12C/24T. Especially when factoring in a new mobo and DDR5.

Looks like we'd get another 450Eur 8core this generation. The 300$ dream just went out of the window. 🙁

Yes, assuming this isn't just placeholder pricing and retailers looking to cash in on enthusiasts, we're certainly not getting a $/€300 octa-core this time around.

mackintosh:

we're certainly not getting a $/€300 octa-core this time around.

12700f after 13th gen launches, and it's actually a 8+4/20t.

Yep, I meant from AMD.

mackintosh:

Yep, I meant from AMD.

why tho ? 12700f checks all the boxes.price,performance,features,ddr4 support.

I wasn't expressing a preference, merely stating a fact that it's not looking good for AMD fans. Intel is going to be the obvious preferred choice here unless AMD's offering is somehow superior on all fronts other than the price - let's not kid ourselves, it won't be. I suppose socket longevity might be its saving grace for some people.

mackintosh:

I wasn't expressing a preference, merely stating a fact that it's not looking good for AMD fans. Intel is going to be the obvious preferred choice here unless AMD's offering is somehow superior on all fronts other than the price - let's not kid ourselves, it won't be. I suppose socket longevity might be its saving grace for some people.

Who care about Intel fans and AMD fans 🙄 Better to care about the people that choose the best products for their use 🙂

nizzen:

Better to care about the people that choose the best products for their use 🙂

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Undying:

Looks like we'd get another 450Eur 8core this generation. The 300$ dream just went out of the window. 🙁

well to be fair $300 is likely to be the the new $200 pretty soon, if we look at how inflation is accumulating over the last couple years. if we take the 7600x at 330usd and put that in 2012 dollars , its around $273, which about $38 less than a 3770k or $50 more than a 3570k would cost at the time, and when you take into account increased process node cost, manufacturing complexity , increased energy costs, material costs ect, It really isn't all that far off what you would expect for a midrange cpu to cost. seems fairly reasonable IMO. doubt we'll be seeing ~$200 midrange cpus ever again to be frank, It will only get worse as the money supply continues to balloon and the number of goods continues to stay the same or contract.

user1:

doubt we'll be seeing ~$200 midrange cpus ever again to be frank

12400f is 170eur, latest generation 6c/12t

cucaulay malkin:

12400f is 170eur, latest generation 6c/12t

Question. Is that midrange? or is it budget/entry level, I'd tend to put it in the lowend , even if the performance is pretty good, since its quite literally a cost reduced variant of alderlake with no e-cores (not just disabled). Edit: I will add that my general view when I think about what classification a cpu should be given, is using historical precedent, which is pretty consistent over generations . usually midrange cpus sit in the 70-80% of the performance of the High end chip. and if its below 50% , then its entry level. ie with sandy bridge the 2500k is~ 83% the peformance of the the 2600k. the 6600k being 74% of the 6700k, the fx6300 being 76% of the fx 8350 ect. granted that the cpu market isn't the same as it used to be, with the huge numbers of cores, but if we apply this standard, then we see the that the 12400f is roughly 52% of the performance of the 12700k, and just 42% of the 12900k. by comparison the 12600k sits at 79%(12700l) and 63% (12900k) , so the 12400f sits in the lowend by this metric. used cinebench 11.5 for the older chips(6700k and older), and r23 for the numbers on the newer ones [SPOILER]https://www.guru3d.com/index.php?ct=articles&action=file&id=29009 https://tpucdn.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d/images/cinebench-multi.png [/SPOILER]

Depends on whether you think the 5600X is a budget low-end CPU.

mackintosh:

Depends on whether you think the 5600X is a budget low-end CPU.

More like mid range cpu while 5500 and 5600 non x being lower end.

mackintosh:

Depends on whether you think the 5600X is a budget low-end CPU.

I think it is now, it is coming up at 2 years old at this point, and the 12600k soundly defeats it at its original pricepoint, I think at best the 5600(x) and the 12400f are borderline lowend products, in the context of the higher end consumer cpus they are lowend, but it depends on whether you buy into the idea that amd and intel have created a new tier of product at the top, or you think they just shifted the entire stack up in price .;) This of course has nothing to with whether they are good products or not, lowend products can be good too! I myself own a 5600g.