Well, I'm a 60 year old Grandad and I stream my Fortnite gameplay. Just saying!

I can't wait to buy beepa pty, and finally own Fraps IP, to then provide an update 🙂

Loobyluggs:

I can't wait to buy beepa pty, and finally own Fraps IP, to then provide an update 🙂

Pretty sure you're joking, at least I hope you are. FRAPS has been obsolete for quite a long time just so you know. There are better alternatives nowadays that take advantage of NVENC.

Irenicus:

Pretty sure you're joking, at least I hope you are. FRAPS has been obsolete for quite a long time just so you know. There are better alternatives nowadays that take advantage of NVENC.

And, they all compress the colour so it looks like junk. High-end trailers from production companies and game publishers do not use 4:2:0 compressed junk, they use Fraps and 4:4:4 uncompressed - or they export sequences directly out of their respective game engines, again, all uncompressed AVI files for editing/post-production. There are no better alternatives to 4:4:4 uncompressed footage or directly exporting uncompressed AVI from an outside source to your editing platform.

karma777police:

Streaming your game play...in my book you must be an idiot to do so.

Well most of the "ladies" I have seen streaming are just as shit as I am at those games... so I guess you don't have to be a genius / master to stream your gameplay... which is a good thing.

Loobyluggs:

And, they all compress the colour so it looks like junk. High-end trailers from production companies and game publishers do not use 4:2:0 compressed junk, they use Fraps and 4:4:4 uncompressed - or they export sequences directly out of their respective game engines, again, all uncompressed AVI files for editing/post-production. There are no better alternatives to 4:4:4 uncompressed footage or directly exporting uncompressed AVI from an outside source to your editing platform.

That's incorrect and also your statement about colour is wrong, since I've witnessed how good NVENC encoding is, and no performance loss. I was talking about recording/streaming. For other uses, perhaps you could use it but I don't really see why you would. There are better methods for uncompressed than FRAPS anyway, since as I said....it's obsolete and no one uses it anymore.

Also I really hope Hilbert views these comments and changes his title "Streamlabs (OBS Software)" which is 100% incorrect.

Irenicus:

That's incorrect and also your statement about colour is wrong, since I've witnessed how good NVENC encoding is, and no performance loss. I was talking about recording/streaming. For other uses, perhaps you could use it but I don't really see why you would. There are better methods for uncompressed than FRAPS anyway, since as I said....it's obsolete and no one uses it anymore.

Perhaps I am missing something here, but I cannot see anything in the settings to enable 4:4:4 uncompressed. Please advise.

Loobyluggs:

Perhaps I am missing something here, but I cannot see anything in the settings to enable 4:4:4 uncompressed. Please advise.

I didn't say NVENC was uncompressed: I said that it looks fantastic and uses very little system resources, and no drop in frame rate. Have you even tried recording using Nvenc at high bitrates? FRAPS always destroyed fps, even if that may be less an issue thesedays if you have a beefy enough PC.

Irenicus:

That's incorrect and also your statement about colour is wrong, since I've witnessed how good NVENC encoding is, and no performance loss. I was talking about recording/streaming. For other uses, perhaps you could use it but I don't really see why you would. There are better methods for uncompressed than FRAPS anyway, since as I said....it's obsolete and no one uses it anymore.

1) What are these better methods for uncompressed? 2) How is my statement about colour wrong?

Irenicus:

I didn't say NVENC was uncompressed: I said that it looks fantastic and uses very little system resources, and no drop in frame rate. Have you even tried recording using Nvenc at high bitrates? FRAPS always destroyed fps, even if that may be less an issue thesedays if you have a beefy enough PC.

3) Yes, because it is CPU bound - hence why I want to buy the company and re-write the code.

Loobyluggs:

1) What are these better methods for uncompressed? 2) How is my statement about colour wrong? 3) Yes, because it is CPU bound - hence why I want to buy the company and re-write the code.

1) You don't really want uncompressed, for recording games. 2) I'm not sure, but it's visual and you can't see what you state is there 3) EXACTLY. Guess what isn't CPU bound? NVENC. Streamers use Hx264 as well, but at higher bitrates (you can go extremely high btw) NVENC looks just as good. There is no market for this "uncompressed" video from games which you claim is required....not many would use that. If anyone at all. Can you explain why you think you require uncompressed video, when compression methods such as NVENC and Hx264 are efficient and do not lose much in the way of quality, and file sizes are a lot smaller? Please elaborate. Anyway as I said, FRAPS is obsolete, you're better off using Shadowplay or OBS for recording games. Which is why everyone uses one of those, and no one uses FRAPS. Here's a test for you, go to some random gaming youtube channels and ask them what they use to record. Then come and tell me how many used FRAPS. I can tell you in advance the number. Because...you know..I'm psychic :P ZERO

Irenicus:

1) You don't really want uncompressed, for recording games. 2) I'm not sure, but it's visual and you can't see what you state is there 3) EXACTLY. Guess what isn't CPU bound? NVENC. Streamers use Hx264 as well, but at higher bitrates (you can go extremely high btw) NVENC looks just as good. There is no market for this "uncompressed" video from games which you claim is required....not many would use that. If anyone at all. Can you explain why you think you require uncompressed video, when compression methods such as NVENC and Hx264 are efficient and do not lose much in the way of quality, and file sizes are a lot smaller? Please elaborate. Anyway as I said, FRAPS is obsolete, you're better off using Shadowplay or OBS for recording games. Which is why everyone uses one of those, and no one uses FRAPS. Here's a test for you, go to some random gaming youtube channels and ask them what they use to record.

1) If you want the best quality PRIOR to webstreaming websites like youtube compress it into a 4:2:0 peice of junk, YES YOU DO! 2) Yes you can, if you play the game and look at poorly recorded/compressed footage from other people, you can completely see the difference in quality. 3) Which comes back to my point about quality and colour, and you have just proved my point - the reason why streaming codecs and methodlogy avoid 4:4:4, is because the strain is too high - hence the footage looks like utter garbage. So, if you want the HIGHEST QUALITY you need to use a codec that uses the full colour space (4:4:4) and is uncompressed throughout. In response to people NOT using Fraps, well, they are just not professional youtubers, that's all I need to say really - and the other aspect you forgot is capture cards, which is a different topic Shadowplay ét all are compressed, and do not use 4:4:4, which makes them junk for quality, but for cheepo-streaming to teenagers, yeah, it's passable.