Impressive capacity, but does this thing REALLY need SAS 12Gb/s? I doubt it can even saturate 3 Gb/s

Impressive capacity, but does this thing REALLY need SAS 12Gb/s? I doubt it can even saturate 3 Gb/s

It's more of a standards thing. A lot of new systems are only shipping with SAS connections so if you're going to buy this for enterprise you are basically going to need it.

Drive Failure Rate What I am very curious about is the drive's failure rate. The implications of increased storage density also means that Raid 5 and Raid 6 are coming to a close based on the ability to rebuild the array without encountering errors. Can anyone shed some more light on this regarding the 6TB drives let alone say a 24 bay SAN filled with them with a Raid 50 or Raid 60 configuration? How soon will it be that these methods that are still very common practice in the IT industry will be obsolete? Are we all already at risk for failures running a raid 5. I would say chances are high and have been using raid 6 or raid 60 in place. Let alone when there are the system resources or hardware availabilities to use ZFT for deduping etc. If anyone knows what the failure rate of this drive is that would be a big plus I think in order to calculate the likely hood of a failure depending on the amount of drives in a NAS or SAN utilizing this hardware. I think this is the bigger worry rather than performance on the drive. It is 7200rpm with higher storage density. Obviously the drive will outperform a smaller drive at the same 3.5" dimensions and rotational speed just due to the overall size let alone seek times etc. Anyways just food for thought. I'm curious how soon the industry will standardize a method to replace these old raid formats that aren't as resource hungry as ZFT, let alone as cumbersome.

Impressive capacity, but does this thing REALLY need SAS 12Gb/s? I doubt it can even saturate 3 Gb/s

It's a 7200 RPM drive, not a 10000 RPM drive so you're probably right: It's not going to saturate a SATA II, much less SATA III or SAS. However, you don't need to buy this driver with SAS compatibility. The article says: "It is also available in an enterprise-ready SATA 6 Gb/s interface..." So if you don't need to use SAS, just get that SATA version of this drive and enjoy. By the way, all the SAS controller chips I've encountered are SATA compatible so I really don't know why anyone would get the SAS version of this driver; Even if all the drive controllers in your rig are SAS, they should still be able to handle SATA drives just fine.

Good to know. Was going to buy another 4TB drive soon but might just get this if the price is OK.

What I am very curious about is the drive's failure rate. The implications of increased storage density also means that Raid 5 and Raid 6 are coming to a close based on the ability to rebuild the array without encountering errors. Can anyone shed some more light on this regarding the 6TB drives let alone say a 24 bay SAN filled with them with a Raid 50 or Raid 60 configuration? How soon will it be that these methods that are still very common practice in the IT industry will be obsolete? Are we all already at risk for failures running a raid 5. I would say chances are high and have been using raid 6 or raid 60 in place. Let alone when there are the system resources or hardware availabilities to use ZFT for deduping etc. If anyone knows what the failure rate of this drive is that would be a big plus I think in order to calculate the likely hood of a failure depending on the amount of drives in a NAS or SAN utilizing this hardware. I think this is the bigger worry rather than performance on the drive. It is 7200rpm with higher storage density. Obviously the drive will outperform a smaller drive at the same 3.5" dimensions and rotational speed just due to the overall size let alone seek times etc. Anyways just food for thought. I'm curious how soon the industry will standardize a method to replace these old raid formats that aren't as resource hungry as ZFT, let alone as cumbersome.

TBH I've only ever had bad experiences with Seagate drives... But things may have changed.

5 or 6 platters?

Well about the price, these 6TB drives are already going for €460+. The 5TB model is going for €350+. Both of the above are about €70-75/TB or about 0.07c/GB. The 4TB drives are already going for about €125-130 which translates to 32,5euros/TB or 0.03c/GB. Conclusion: Going to grab 2 4TB drives soon if nothing better comes. I waited a long time for a 5TB/6TB drive because my 9.5TB are full for quite a while now and I'm barely getting by..

TBH I've only ever had bad experiences with Seagate drives... But things may have changed.

Last month bought 7 Seagate HDD's 2 of them failed first tests on the beginning, 1 reports bad smart status, but works OK, 4 of them - flawless. I've exchanged bad ones of course.

Forget HDD's. How about giving us cheaper high-capacity SSD's?

Forget HDD's. How about giving us cheaper high-capacity SSD's?

to make change me hdds to ssds, prices of ssds can't be higher than 1,5times hdds of same capacity price.

I need one of these all the hd videos i take really eat up alot of space,my 2t drive is full already and is two months old so i am in need. I will feel like a bottom feeder if i get seagate drives thou

bye bye HDD I think in the next 5 years the HDD will be used to archiving, the future is for the SSD & SSHD

TBH I've only ever had bad experiences with Seagate drives... But things may have changed.

Never had any bad experiences with any brand except Maxtor. Though I'm very keen on maintenance like defragging and the sort.

No thanks too much data to lose when the drive will fail and a lot has failed through the years

No thanks too much data to lose when the drive will fail and a lot has failed through the years

You ever heard of backups? Retard

You ever heard of backups? Retard

Yes I heard of backup. Reported.

Well about the price, these 6TB drives are already going for €460+. The 5TB model is going for €350+. Both of the above are about €70-75/TB or about 0.07c/GB. The 4TB drives are already going for about €125-130 which translates to 32,5euros/TB or 0.03c/GB. Conclusion: Going to grab 2 4TB drives soon if nothing better comes. I waited a long time for a 5TB/6TB drive because my 9.5TB are full for quite a while now and I'm barely getting by..

For large archives the LTO tape drives are the cheapest and most reliable option (UBER is 10E17 .. 1 unrecoverable bit every 10E17 bits statistically) Used LTO3 tape drives can be bought for €100 to €180 on average, with 400GB LTO3 tapes on eBay for €7 to €10 on average. Which means around 2 cents of Euro per GigaByte. LTO3 tapes/tape drive sustained read/write speed is 80MByte/s Used LTO4 tape drives can be bought for €200 to €300 on average, and 800GB LTO4 tapes on eBay for €12 to €15 on average. LTO4 tapes/tape drive sustained read/write speed is 120MByte/s LTO5 used tape drives can be bought for €500 to €800 on average, new in shops around €1100 - €1200. Then 1500GB LTO5 tapes can be found at €12 to €18 on average. LTO5 tapes/tape drive sustained read/write speed is 140MByte/s LTO6 tape drives like the Tandberg ones can be bought new in shops for €1600. But 2500GB LTO6 tapes are still expensive in the €50 to €60. LTO6 tapes/tape drive sustained read/write speed is 160MByte/s Amazon, Google and many others all use plenty LTO tape drives libraries (very expensive models) in their data centers for a good reason. Only the Sun T10000 tape drives are better than LTO with their UBER at 10E19 but they are very expensive, much more than the LTO ones and don't work on any system. LTO tape drives can work on Windows, Linux, BSD and OSX.

Can I use these huge drives without partitioning them? I will get a 3TB drive for storage. I don't have UEFI.

May be on unix-based OS