Ryzen 9 7950X CPU-Z Bench MT Score 8% Behind i9-13900K and 34% above i9-12900K

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intel's marketing department and their customers are born for each other !
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GlassGR:

intel's marketing department and their customers are born for each other !
I think people are smart enough to buy what's best for them. I'm buying hardware for myself, and don't care what other people buy. Couldn't care less. Why do some people care about what other people buy?
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nizzen:

Why do some people care about what other people buy?
because my team is better, so you you should join my team!:D
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At least this time the Red vs Blue are at least competing, not like 10 years ago with things like Bulldozer from AMD and Intel not giving two thoughts about being better because was already wining by a large margin. This time both have beasts coming in and lets see the real team. But unfortunately I think that AMD platform could be a little expensive for now.
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nizzen:

I think people are smart enough to buy what's best for them.
This tells me you've never been in the technology retail business. Yes, most enthusiasts will buy what is best for them, though sometimes they are still stupid. But then there's the line of people who think they know information, but are not correct (pentium 4 days when moar ghz must be better for example) And then there's your general user, which is the majority, that buy a pc that has 32gb of ram instead of 16, for web browsing, because more must be better, or the people who buy a pc that has a 1tb hdd, instead of one with a 250gb or 500gb ssd, because more is better, even though when you look at their current pc they are using less then 100gb, OS and all. And every, single, other thing people buy, because they dont know what they need, would benefit them, and have no idea what they are buying, but make decisions based off their lack of knowledge, rather then listen to reason (not everyone is this way when they dont know what they are buying, thankfully) So yeah, retail world would absolutely disagree with you here.
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Joao Pott:

hmmmm... I'm looking forward to upgrading my 5900x to a 7900x... But this time I'll try to be patient and wait for reliable reviews like Guru3D and GamerNexus before investing... I'll need to change the motherboard and add RAM DDR5, so the investment is getting much higher than my last upgrade (3900x to 5900x, same motherboard and RAM). When does the review embargo end?
Better still, wait 6 months for the 5900X3D and get that instead. Seen as the rumours and leaks about Zen 4 have been near 100% accurate the leaks regarding the 3D Zen 4 chips could see them having upwards of 128-256MB of stacked cache!! This would easily push it well beyond raptor lake in gaming. Not to forget but by then DDR5 should be cheaper as well.
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who is this: You are ignoring content by this member. 🙄
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CPC_RedDawn:

Better still, wait 6 months for the 5900X3D and get that instead. Seen as the rumours and leaks about Zen 4 have been near 100% accurate the leaks regarding the 3D Zen 4 chips could see them having upwards of 128-256MB of stacked cache!! This would easily push it well beyond raptor lake in gaming. Not to forget but they then DDR5 should be cheaper as well.
This is probably what I'm going to do.
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Aura89:

This tells me you've never been in the technology retail business. Yes, most enthusiasts will buy what is best for them, though sometimes they are still stupid. But then there's the line of people who think they know information, but are not correct (pentium 4 days when moar ghz must be better for example) And then there's your general user, which is the majority, that buy a pc that has 32gb of ram instead of 16, for web browsing, because more must be better, or the people who buy a pc that has a 1tb hdd, instead of one with a 250gb or 500gb ssd, because more is better, even though when you look at their current pc they are using less then 100gb, OS and all. And every, single, other thing people buy, because they dont know what they need, would benefit them, and have no idea what they are buying, but make decisions based off their lack of knowledge, rather then listen to reason (not everyone is this way when they dont know what they are buying, thankfully) So yeah, retail world would absolutely disagree with you here.
I 've been a salesman for 5 years of my life , i could ( but didnt) sell whatever i wanted to either enthusiasts or general users. Even if i tried to help them not buy something they insisted "it has more ram-mhz-core-blablabla" . Some times customers thought i was trying to manipulate them and left the store or complained about me. Stupidity is not treatable and Marketing departments know it and are doing a great job !
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