Rumor: Radeon RX 7800 XT scores 19K points in TimeSpy (matching RX 6800XT)
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fantaskarsef
That kind of looks like AMD is doing what Nvidia does: Release a gen with midrange's performance similiar or spot on to the older gen, only with more software features.
Or am I wrong here? Because I have to say, just like 3060/4060 was called out for offering no improvement in sheer power, wouldn't it be the same situation here?
Ray l
Wonder if these new cards will have the 16 gig vram thats on the 6800XT?
Vram is important when it comes to games like DCS.
barbacot
If you can't beat them, join them?
fantaskarsef
Or maybe: Why be holier than the pope? As in, why shouldn't we do what Nvidia does, because sympathies alone don't make money?
I just wanted to see if I understood the situation correctly.
asturur
no one tested it yet. What matters most to me is that there is an improvement in fps per dollar or fps per watt. Naming is something that really doesn't matter. Does it?
wavetrex
Called it.
Zero generational improvement. Actually, I'm pretty sure it will be slightly worse in 4K, less cache and less compute.
And btw, there's price stagnation too, 6800XT can already be found around $500, so this brings absolutely nothing on the perf/price front.
After THREE FREEKIN' YEARS.
What a disgrace :-(
H83
I agree with you. Lately AMDs GPU strategy is simply to follow Nvidia lead and undercut them a little on the price...
There's no real competition on the GPU space...
Horus-Anhur
The worst part is that AMD could take advantage of nvidia's over pricing, to gain some market share, but instead, they also over price their GPUs, reducing appeal to the consumer.
And with AMD already having such a low share of the GPU market, this is a terrible strategy for the long term.
aufkrawall2
It probably makes sense when assuming they are not interested in PC gaming for the coming years and just offer some chips to at least keep one foot in this market for possible (but not mandatory) future come-backs. In light of that, RDNA3 could be just some playground for future CDNA archs, pre-testing for consoles etc. But basically: "Radeon has left the gaming channel."
Silva
AMD don't want to lower the price of the RX6000 series no more. I have eyes on a RX6700XT for 345€ and if this RX7800XT came at a reasonable price less than 400€, it would push the older gen low enough I could afford it.
The number being true, its really disapointing, the only thing we see is a 150 freedom money cut on MSRP, but no performance gain? I sure hope this is wrong for AMD sake, or this card will not sell well.
GlassGR
amd and nvidia should start charging graphics adapters as a service ,graphics adapters with subscription and once in two years a bios update that will change the color theme of the rgb lighting and model name 🙂
wait a minute ,that is what cloud gaming is trying to became !!!
ps
i wonder when intel will release its "new" graphics adapter ?
maybe they will change only the cards name in their comparison charts -> "as fast as rx7600-4060" edit + save -> smooooth 🙂
fantaskarsef
Well, Nvidia is actively trying to do that if you order their gaming streaming (Geforce Now). AMD doesn't have the intent / financials to take on that money and run a data center to sell you 7900XTX as a service though. Also, such a model would be taking the burden of damaged hardware or low availability on your own back, whereas by buying a GPU, the customer has the issue to make sure his GPU actually works...
Intel's "Battlemage" is supposed to be around "late Q2 2024", that's the last I've heard.
Ivrogne
What a progress! We need more of something like this!
Jokes aside, 7700xt looks more promising, maybe thats why they set it to that price. Wait for price decrease and its a very good deal.
Airbud
This is x8xx/x7xx though?
A 4070 is a lot faster than a 3070.
Undying
7700xt should have been 399$ card. 7800xt isnt bad for the price or you can buy a 4060ti 16gb and be disappointed even more.
fantaskarsef
Well that's why I specifically referred to the 3060 and 4060. Sure, 4070 is faster, like you said. I'm just surprised it looks like this for AMD tbh. I wouldn't have expected this. But that's why I'm carefully asking about what I missed 😀
Airbud
4060 is a $299 card...the performance jump to 4070 is huge.$
PinguX
This card should have been called the 7800 (non XT)
There is no N31 7800 XT due to good yields
The pricing makes the 7800 XT better value than the 7700 XT and 4070
schmidtbag
Rather disappointing. I'm sure RT performance is much improved, and I would hope the performance-per-watt is better. Otherwise, what's the point?
If AMD's software for CDNA was mature then I'd be inclined to agree. In reality though: they are still far behind. On paper, AMD has better value compute products, but none of that matters if software can't make use of it.
Agonist
I swear people here sometimes do not use their brain, since when does someone go from a 6800xt to a 7800xt. That has never been the upgrade path. Thats like someone going from a 1080 to 2080.
This card is meant for people who have 6700xt or loser, Does not matter if nvidia or AMD gpu.
When has the next released gpu been that much faster until after GTX 1xxx for Nvidia. 6800xt was a monster release gpu to upgrade to for people with 5700xt like me, because there was no 5800xt.
The the 960 was basically the same speed as a 760, barely beating a gtx 670, 1060 only ahead of a gtx 970. Nothing was a big jump until RTX 3 series for anything not high end for Nvidia. And we didnt have any kinda of jump for AMD until the 5700xt, then finally the 6800, and 6700.
Do I think the 7800xt is a good card, not really, its bad no. But anyone who has even a RX 6800 shouldnt upgrade to this.
Personally I am waiting for the 8800xt or 8900xt. What ever it will be called. I dont think a 7900xtx is worth $1000 with waterblock for me to upgrade to at near 4k res.
