Rumor: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1180 Expected in July?
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Memorian
Pascal doesn't support RTX, we need new cards. A good custom GTX1180/2080 with Shadow of the Tomb Raider bundle in September will be awesome.
vbetts
Moderator
Any DX12 card supports Raytracing in DX12 at least.
Memorian
RTX requires Volta GPU.
Silva
And with high memory prices, wouldn't a "less is more" strategy be better? I don't know about 4k but you can't max 8Gb with 1080p or 1440p I believe. But, we are talking about the top of the line, it has to have the best in terms of performance.
599€ for a 15% faster card than a card that costs +800€ atm. Seems legit, keep dreaming boy.
Does anyone with a 1080Ti really need to upgrade? Only specific people would upgrade for 15% performance, the bulk of buyers will be coming from people with 1080/980 and others, not the 1080Ti.
With the memory crisis I think it's just stupid to fuel it more with an overpriced 16Gb GPU. But with the marketing push for 4k, maybe...
Having new cards coming out is great, makes the competition move and gives consumers choice. But as GDDR6 is more expensive over GDDR5 and the price hike in the last year for memory, I do hope the 1180 comes with 8Gb or so, and then a 1180Ti comes with 16Gb. That, for me at least, would be more logical from an economical point of view.
fantaskarsef
You two aren't talking about the same thing... dx12 raytracing is not necessarily RTX
Memorian
I'm expecting at least 12GB of VRAM in the new generation.
vbetts
Moderator
I didn't say it didn't? Just saying DXR only requires DX12 compatible cards. Now how much RTX is going to be actually used, that's a whole different story.
Unilythe
A lot of videocards don't have a high amount of VRAM because it's necessary to have so much, but because it adds to the bandwidth. Memory bandwidth is incredibly important in for GPU's, and adding more VRAM chips increases that bandwidth.
In this case, the GTX 1180 will likely have 8 memory chips again, but GDDR6 has double the memory per chip. Nvidia really doesn't want to only have 4 memory chips in the GTX 1180. That would limit the bandwidth way too much. As you can see in the link below, GDDR6 is 16Gb per chip, which is 2GB per chip. 2 times 8 is 16.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/12338/samsung-starts-mass-production-of-gddr6-memory
As to why the chips aren't smaller: No idea. There must be some reason for it, but I don't know.
-Tj-
Not much, 1 game that's it xD
Imo its a flop, I would rather see better characters and foliage, lighting, etc..
H83
Normally i would be very interested in a new generation of GPUs but now that i have an high end card (1080ti) that crushes everything i trow at it, my interest seems to be minimal at best... First time i ever felt like this regarding new cards...
Maybe Hilbert´s review can change this.
schmidtbag
There are some bold rumored claims that AMD's Vega 20 will have as much as a 70% per-clock improvement. I personally find that very hard to believe, but, I also think it's a bit premature to definitively say that there won't be competition for this upcoming generation.
You might want to lower your hopes a bit. When Huang basically implied "we don't need to do anything for a year and we're still going to have a better product", that doesn't sound like Nvidia has put in much effort (for gaming GPUs). Sometimes I don't think Huang realizes how his confidence in his company and products can be seen as laziness or a lack of innovation to investors... But, at least Volta proves otherwise.
Furthermore, miners make chip sales very easy. Why would Nvidia spend all this money in R&D when all their products will be sold anyway?
I suspect the 1100 series will have a lot of Pascal rebrands (particularly at the lower end) and the Turing/Ampere/whatever parts will be minimal upgrades.
Eastcoasthandle
I will be shocked if this actually beats a 1080Ti. This will probably be a direct replacement for the 1080.
Agreed! Nothing on the '1170' either. If the overhead of 1070/1080 chips are true I wouldn't be surprised if the 1080 gets rebranded over to the 1170 spec. This would make sense as to the rumor that the 1070 is going to be the new 1060"Ti". You probably wouldn't see it until the new cards are released.
1180 = between 1080 and 1080 Ti
1170 = between 1070 (possible 1060) and 1080
1160 = between 1060 and 1070
With the 1160 it might be a 1070 though. If it's not renamed 1060 as it's rumored to be.
NVIDIA: Pascal to continue to be best gaming platform for foreseeable future
D3M1G0D
Ah, more rumors. When it comes to new GPUs, gamers are worse than a sewing circle :P
I really doubt a July timeframe, and I also don't expect major improvements. I can see them doing a possible Pascal refresh, but no need to push the envelope when AMD is so far behind.
Denial
Any game that utilizes DX12's DXR gets automatically accelerated via RTX and AMD's equivalent. The RTX GameWorks libraries are just easy ways for developers to toss in DXR based effects.
It also works with nearly all OptiX based software, which covers a rather large amount of GPU renderers in the professional space.
-Tj-
Yes but so far it will be only in new Metro, or is there any other game?
tensai28
Getting kind of tired of all the rumors. I remember when this site stuck to just facts. I guess it can't be helped with pretty much nothing going on as far as gpus are concerned.
-Tj-
Well if that 3dmark2011 leak was true and Vega20 ran at 1GHz with extra 200-300mhz overhead, then it has what another extra 600-700mhz room to play (same freq. as Vega64 ~ 1.6 - 1.7Ghz) and that will be more then enough to beat 1080ti and this new Turing.
Memorian
Something tells me that SoTR will support it too.
TheDeeGee
5% faster for €900 due to miners?
Memorian
History repeats itself with NVIDIA cards.
So..
1170/2070 = 1080Ti
1180/2080 = 1080Ti + 20-25%
1180/2080Ti = 1080Ti + 70-80%
