Review: Ryzen 7 3700X & Ryzen 9 3900X processors
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jwb1
A new BIOS is not going to fix voltage requirements and heat. All core, a 3900x will struggle to reach 4.2ghz. The heat and voltage required is too high. Watch der8auer's video.
squalles
ryzen 3700x runs hotter than i9 9900k?
Fox2232
High PBO + High LLC... bad idea.
In MT benchmarks, it does perform 50% better than 3700X in general.
In comparison to my 2700X it is 50~80% faster in productivity workloads.
Video you listed came with some 12~18IPC incresse, so even if 4.2GHz was all core boost, 12% above Zen+ would make it same as 4.7GHz Zen+. And 18% as 4.95GHz Zen+.
I think I am fine with those values. Or are we back in Bulldozer times of GHz race? How did you like that 4GHz comparison?
H83
So after reading the review i think we can all agree that both the 3700x and 3900x are great CPUs with great value specially compared to Intel. The only "weak" points are the gaming performance, improved but still behind Intel, and the dreadful OC potential. The OC values are really disappointing for me because i was expecting much better and because frequency is very important for games.
The article hinted at a possible 3700, should we expect an even cheaper 8 core CPU from AMD Hilbert??? You can tell me, i won´t say anything to anyone...
Great review as always!
Mesab67
That's ok.
There will always be a 9900K (or equivalent) group, just as a significant number of that same group will use the exact same reasoning to buy into the 2080Ti (or equivalent), and that's ok too. For the vast majority, things are a little different, and from today, the additional reasons for that difference are about to have an impact on new additions to the former.
On another note: what's up with the OC obsession?? Did you even read Hilbert's review and conclusions?? What's your overall single takeaway sentence?
Aura89
Not sure where you came up with that conclusion, temperatures were not compared here.
Alessio1989
Yes, that's all AMD or MB OEMs fault. I am pretty confident that most reviewers had very little time (1-2 days?) to make the work (we didn't even receive one kit from AMD, we are still waiting for AMD PR response -.-).
jwb1
Yeah, I don't think Gamers Nexus got a 3700x or 3900x..... this launch and AMD's marketing has been very weird. A series of bad PR marketing videos on their end, and some people you'd expect not getting proper review samples.
schmidtbag
That's what they said about first gen.
Also, you seem weirdly obsessive over how these CPUs overclock. Like as though that's the only thing that matters.
Neo Cyrus
I've been waiting for what feels like an eternity for the 3900X. The overclocking potential is worse than what I thought would be the worst case scenario. That's probably a deal breaker for me.
I should wait for the 4900X, but would motherboard manufacturers update X470 boards to properly support it?
Ryu5uzaku
It seems I wouldn't want to oc it. Better gaming perf in general w/o oc because higher single core frequencies.
Fox2232
Why would I? I did read Hilbert's review. That speaks for itself. If you need some other page as argument while power data are available here, you are doing something wrongly.
nizzen
Ryzen 3k won in Cinebench, and lost in games @ 4ghz:
https://www.diskusjon.no/uploads/monthly_07_2019/post-42975-0-48543800-1562510880_thumb.png
So if you "play" Cinebnech 24/7, the Ryzen 3k is the thing 😀
jwb1
Because looking at more results from other people is not a bad thing? And no offense to Hilbert, but der8auer knows his stuff.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
Administrator
Mate your tremendous hard-on for Intel is showing real obviously. People in this thread are getting annoyed by it. I suggest toning down a little. If you don't like the product, don't buy it. it is that simple. BTW I had the proc at 1.55 Volts, didn't break down either. But hey, what do I know, right?
jwb1
No, I'm pointing out the obvious downsides to their product and the bloated PR marketing. There's something wrong when Gamers Nexus gets nothing, because they don't sugar coat their reviews to either Intel or AMD, and a known AMD fan/promoter YouTuber called Joker Productions gets review samples of 3700x/3900x.
On a 3900x? Stable? And at what temps and all core frequency did you obtain?
Fox2232
I do not see 3700X which I can have for $321 (excluding tax) as losing to 9900K which I can have for $511 (excluding tax) in this scenario. Neither would be 3900X in similar scenario as it has much wider use outside of gaming.
Hilbert Hagedoorn
Administrator
The process of tweaking is finding your max all-core clock with the lowest possible voltage. 4.5 GHz was not stable, 4.4 GHz did (difficult) but 1.55v was simply not needed and as such it's lowered until you find just the right balance between voltage and frequency in order to preserve heat and power consumption.
Aura89
Sorry but this is pure fabrication unless you're able to, you know, actually provide stats about this. Gamers nexus even in their 3600 review stated they are reviewing the 3700x and 3900x, and in a previous "status update" or whatever you want to call some of their youtube videos they have stated how busy they are because of all the reviews, including the 3000 series, they have had to be doing. That was posted 2 days ago.
Are there some companies that didn't get review samples? Sure. Why? Who knows, your speculations however are simply BS. Not everyone gets reviews.
schmidtbag
Yes, we get it - you've made your point. You've stated more than enough that it doesn't OC well. Considering how variable the results are on a brand new product, it's to be expected that stability will improve over time.
Move on.
