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Astyanax
It never has been, there are applications that rely on being able to specify their tearing and swapmode methods that otherwise break.
Application default has always been the recommended setting, and then control the vsync off state either from the application side or a driver profile.
Nvidia need to remove the off state from the global setting and only expose it under profiles
Loobyluggs
O always prefer 'adaptive' for global.
Camaxide
Dragam1337
asturur
Input lag has always been the wrong definition imho.
What vsync introduces is visual lag / reaction lag.
You kick a button at time X, the frame goes in the rendering time and is in the back buffer at X + N, then goes in the front buffer at X + N + N.
The game engine could shoot that input to the network before the frames are done.
So you see it happening later, but the input is not suffering from lag. Is a visual lag issue imho.
People think that their inputs are not considered because all the computer does nothing waiting for the next vsync, and that seems silly to me as a software developer. If it is true in games, is games fault.
monkaS
If I use let the application decide for vsync my mouse doesn't feel snappy in games even if I make a profile to turn it off and I don't use vsync in game settings, this is probably due to wdm asks for vsync and adds input lag when you gaming even if vsync is off in game settings
jbscotchman
People turn v-sync off?
Astyanax
ObscureangelPT
I tend to play with Vsync on anyway.
That is .. when I reach the target framerate only and in singleplayer titles.
As for competitive gaming, vsync off.
Curiously enough and not sure if placebo or not,
when playing with vsync ON (which brutally adds tons of input lag), enabling nvidia reflex does improve a lot even with vsync on.
Still for competitive games, vsync for me is off.
But any singleplayer game with >60FPS is on π
Noisiv
Using Global profile is mostly a dumb idea. Mostly...
Yes. But
a) it manifests itself as a visual lag
because
b) your input command matters only insofar as it's displayed on screen
asturur
TheDeeGee
Nothing changes for me then, cuz i only ever set the Performance Mode in Global tab to Adaptive, the rest is default.
If a game needs V-Sync i make a profile for it.
ObscureangelPT
@asturur In a FPS game like Warzone and especially CS:GO, enabling VSYNC in a 60HZ screen is really noticable in your response time.
What I was saying is Nvidia reflex (curiosly enough) gets a lot of that response time back with vsync on (and also with Vsync off, duh), but still for this type of games, it's still prefferable for me to play with vsync OFF.
Possibly if I had 1440HZ screen I would have a different opinion, but I'm still a 60HZ Peasent π
asturur
asturur
loracle
I can't play without v-sync on because of tearing, and i noticed that when v-sync is off beside of tearing the gpu is heavily stressed π:D
NiColaoS
Me personally as long as I remember always on. I hate everything without VSync. My monitor is only 75Hz and I don't know whether the guy that said on 165Hz monitors the tearing almost goes away. Whether is true or not, I have no idea. Also I like that my card is capable at almost all of my games pulling the 75Hz required with FPS Limiter at 73Hz, too. Now to do that at 165Hz more than doubles the horsepower needed. You need the monitor and the GPU and even CPU in order to achieve that. Otherwise, there's no point.
P.S. By the way, what the heck happened to 120Hz monitors? Why did we jump to 144 and 165 arbitrarily ( seemingly )? That would be my next monitor with a new GPU, say 3060 but 1660 Super at 210β¬ was the last extremely good purchase I made. Now everything is heavily overpriced. When you're over 30 years old, you start playing a lot less and lowering your expectations. I don't even know why I got 9700K CPU. It never works more than 50% in games ( at 73Hz ).
Noisiv
Solfaur
I made it a habit to turn it on as soon as I update drivers. Most games are fine with it off and g-sync only, but I noticed more and more that require both v-sync and g-sync on for butter smooth non-tearing experience. I care less about input lag than I do about screen tearing.
Venix
@NiColaoS i think the 144 and 165 come from the produced panels they can do this number one way or another so they will not limit that and advertise it as 120hz π . Now on a freesynch monitor the higher the ceiling the better ! Besides such monitors can run on lower modes too.