Neo Cyrus:

It says it's done with matrix multiplication (think of a matrix as a grid of sets of data containers; a tensor is higher dimensional matrix), so it sounds like it'll need tensor cores/whatever specific cores for acceleration. nVidia won't allow it to work with Intel's hardware, and I don't remember if AMD's GPUs have any such hardware, I don't think they do.

moo100times:

Funnily enough I stumbled across this information whilst playing with this: https://github.com/nod-ai/SHARK. The instinct industry cards have more matrix support function with dedicated matrix processing units (https://gpuopen.com/learn/amd-lab-notes/amd-lab-notes-matrix-cores-README/) The 7000 series has something similar to tensor cores rather than tensor cores themselves, more generic AI accelerators which amongst other things can perform matrix multiplication functions (https://gpuopen.com/learn/wmma_on_rdna3/), but no idea about their actual performance in this area compared to what Nvidia claims. If stable diffusion output is anything to go by, it's pretty good.

Undying:

And convince nvidia to ship graphics cards with memory to have room for the textures.

Neo Cyrus:

From what I've heard (I didn't verify it, so take it with a grain of salt) AMD's 7K series cards don't have dedicated hardware for matrix multiplication, instead they're run on shared units... Edit: I just asked a completely unreliable source to verify (the best kind of source), and apparently I remembered wrong, the RT units are built into the texture units for AMD so that's what I was thinking of, the matrix multiplication is apparently done on the shaders. So yeah, no dedicated tensor/mm hardware on AMD cards.

metagamer:

For someone who's been beating the "VRAM GIMEEEEE MOAR VRAM" for quite a few years, it's quite funny to see you using a GPU that "doesn't have enough VRAM".

metagamer:

For someone who's been beating the "VRAM GIMEEEEE MOAR VRAM" for quite a few years, it's quite funny to see you using a GPU that "doesn't have enough VRAM".

Noisiv:

That's nothing. In his younger Ryzen 1 days he was screaming GIMME 8+ CORES OR DEATH. .. That was before he... "upgraded" to 6 cores :D

Undying:

Games didnt took the route we hopped for and still heavily singlethread limited. It is what it is 😀

Undying:

You might be right. 12gb vram is the barely enough for 1440p these days.

metagamer:

It's absolutely fine for any game I've played.

Undying:

I know you like Diablo so we'll talk about it when it releases. Beta was not fine.

metagamer:

Dude, I told you about the beta already. It was clearly bugged on high res textures, regardless of what VRAM your GPU had. The textures looked mediocre at best anyway, plus there's no draw distance in an isometric top down ARPG, it's not like the game will need 16GB VRAM. This will be fixed on release or shortly after and anyone with 8GB VRAM GPUs will run it just fine. Btw, high res vs no high res textures in the beta looked nigh on identical.

Noisiv:

The issue is not that AMD/Intel do not have the required hw for fast matrix multi.

Zenoth:

Genuinely impressive tech for non-affordable graphics cards. The minority will benefit unless NVIDIA one day can realize that more people buying their cards = making more money.