last time i looked it said the 1080 is 20% fast then 2 980's in sli so will you people please get facts right then that would mean 2 980'tis in sli are close to a 1080,that or they are just hyping all fans of nvidia so they can chuck out the none dx12 cards.

its so funny how most people still dont know the difference between the cooler on the reference model and the founders edition (vapor chamber), and even apply the higher price of the later, to above product, which is just the reference (non founders) edition running a stock (non vapor) cooler...

Hmm... never heard of a vapor chamber cooler on the founder's edition... do you have a link per chance?

last time i looked it said the 1080 is 20% fast then 2 980's in sli so will you people please get facts right then that would mean 2 980'tis in sli are close to a 1080,that or they are just hyping all fans of nvidia so they can chuck out the none dx12 cards.

When two 980 are running correctly one 1080 or 980 ti won't beat em. 20% faster then 980 in sli is funny. Even at stock two 980's give out 10 tflops even with modest oc those two will just leave the area that 1080 or 980 ti can reach.

Hmm... never heard of a vapor chamber cooler on the founder's edition... do you have a link per chance?

I read it would have. So it is kind of like 780 series which all had the vapor chamber coolers which all were also worse then the aib coolers.

I read it would have. So it is kind of like 780 series which all had the vapor chamber coolers which all were also worse then the aib coolers.

Oh well, was just curious, because if they'd have done the vapor chamber cooler right, it might actually be quite good, if it would be anything like Sapphire's coolers.

Oh well, was just curious, because if they'd have done the vapor chamber cooler right, it might actually be quite good, if it would be anything like Sapphire's coolers.

I would think it is close to the 7xx series coolers. But then again these cards will have lower tdp for sure. So it will be effective. For my case blower style cooler is a really good choice also since I have RV01 Raven.

its so funny how most people still dont know the difference between the cooler on the reference model and the founders edition (vapor chamber), and even apply the higher price of the later, to above product, which is just the reference (non founders) edition running a stock (non vapor) cooler...

Hmm... never heard of a vapor chamber cooler on the founder's edition... do you have a link per chance?

From what I understand from the article www guru3d com news-story geforce-gtx-1070-1080-founders-edition-explained html (sorry can't link yet) is that the reference model is the founders edition. The stock cooler on the reference card is the vapor chamber one. The card pictured here is indeed both the reference card and founders edition because they are the same card. There is only 1 SKU not seperate ones. There isn't such a thing as a non founders edition with a non vapor cooler unless you are talking about an AIB's card. If I'm wrong maybe I misunderstood the article, but I could not find any information pertaining to a reference card with a non vapor cooler nor one with a different SKU.