NVIDIA CES 2024 Event: What to Expect from that GeForce RTX 40 SUPER
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pegasus1
Who needs three cards when seven will do.
CyberSparky
I've owned every 80 series card from the 480 to the 3080. I couldn't justify spending that much on a 40 series card. Unless the price changes, then my 3080 will keep pumping out my frames till Nvidia comes down from their high horse of crypto mining prices for a gaming card.
Undying
Another three gpus above 600€ with the cheapest one being 12gb vram, again.
Its so exciting i cant contain myself 😀
pegasus1
Best you hope DLSS 10 supports your card when the RTX7080 comes out cos prices are never going to drop by any significant amount.
Moonbogg
I got no problem never buying a GPU again if prices don't go back to where they were. At some point the products no longer make sense for what they are. That line was crossed a long time ago. The 80 class needs to be $5-600 before I consider it again.
Pryme
You will never see 80 class cards going back to that price range, this is the new reality.
fantaskarsef
I wonder if at some point, they will give up trying to upsell and realise due to pricing, they might actually gain something out of "discount marketing" and try to downsell their higher tier cards.
Not make a 4070 TI Super (which is actually upsold twice!), but that they neither have the customer base nor a reasonable explaination why they are named this way.
Do we see a 5060 budget savings early bird edition? With lower clocks (TDP limit)? 😀
pegasus1
The worlds economies are far to closely interwoven for even a currency crash or spike to positively (for the end user) effect pricing.
Even if suddenly the supply/demand relationship flips over, they will just stop making something and shift resources to another more in demands thing.
Prices didnt drop after the mining craze dies, because the demand was still there just for servers and then AI.
The1
This^^ They have seen what the market and consumer's will endure and there will NEVER again be a $600 80 series gpu.
H83
It`s not a simple question of what consumers are willing to pay, we have to remember things are more expensive than a few years ago.
CPU/GPU nodes are more expensive than ever, the machines to produce them are also more expensive and workers are also making more money than before, this as to result in higher prices.
This doesn`t mean that we are not being milked by Nvidia and other companies, because we are, but at the same time we can`t expect old prices on new products that are more expensive to make than before.
Venix
Mid January 2024 just in time to miss the holidays?! I thought companies do their best to be able to sell at that period.
tunejunky
they sell for the coming year and the logistics are fearsome
tunejunky
it's going to be the same old song and dance from Nvidia. they need to do a refresh of the Lovelace, but they should've dropped price also. even a symbolic $20 would be nice. but no, what am i thinking?
tbh, anybody who buys one will be happy because this is shinier and newer. only the small but die hard faction loving Nvidia's alphabet soup will gush over this.
imo the "Super" will be overshadowed by the 8xxx APU's. those APU live at the heart of the pricing market and besides the large number of OEM mini-systems there will be desktop ryzen 4/rdna 3.5 APU's that will allow an upgrade path for the buyer both for gpu and cpu while performing 1080p at high or ultra.
Sylencer
I can defo tell you what not to expect from the 40 RTX Super… lower prices, so you can actually justify buying them.
Dribble
To get lower prices we'd need AMD or Nvidia to have lots of spare capacity which they could use to produce more gaming gpu's. Then they would have to drop prices to sell more. However both of them have other more profitable ways to use that capacity so it's not gonna happen.
pegasus1
Exactly, the cost of global logistics has risen dramatically over the last few years.
Brexit, Covid, global conflict, the wobbly Chinese economy all have had a huge impact on the cost of shipping.
alanm
I was of the mind that Nvidia would divert most of its spare chip capacity to the more expensive (and far more profitable) AI parts, thus leaving very little for gaming. If so then prices will not likely be lower.
But with the China trade restrictions having come into effect just last month, there may be more capacity to go around (and maybe more gaming chips) which may result in lower prices. Will be interesting to see what happens.
The1
Valid points, the cost of production, logistics associated with getting the product to the market, labor costs, everything has gotten more expensive for a multitude of reasons. The fact remains though, that without you and I willing to purchase to product at whatever price point the manufacturer determines provides a sustainable profit margin, the market would be unsustainable.
The market drives the viability of every product offered.
