Netflix threatens to ban customers who share an account unauthorized

Webhiker

2023-02-01 16:11

gUNN1993:

I think the idea that Piracy will replace password sharing is flawed, password sharing is a 1/10 difficulty with lots of benefits (All devices, no storage issues etc). To move to piracy people would either have to find websites that stream (dodgy looking) then wait for the inevitable 6 popup adds (gross) or Start torrenting (scary and not available on all devices right away) I think that they'll get a big hit short term but overall work out in their favor (assuming they can get some good draw shows) Remember most people aren't on IT related forums for a good portion of their day and they WILL pay for convivence.

Have you seriously never heard about Plex ?

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rflair

Moderator

2023-02-01 16:13

Netflix' problem is there are to many other services in the same market they once dominated, they are not a lone provider anymore. But this also effects all providers and what was once a $10-$15 a month sub to one service that kind of had it all is now spread across 5+ services at a minimum to achieve the same content. And now naturally the price of subscription goes up over time and your 5+ services are well near $100 if not more. For me it is a moot point, I don't watch TV and if we have to be honest that all these services are, more TV.

#6098819

H83

2023-02-01 16:21

RealNC:

It's not stealing. It's just against their TOS. You can put whatever you want in your TOS. Doesn't make it legally binding. Here's my TOS: "You are only allowed to read my posts if you wear a silly hat." If you don't wear a silly hat while reading this, you're stealing from me.

My silly hat was stolen from me, i swear!!! Don`t sue me! Please!!!:D

#6098824

XP-200

2023-02-01 16:31

I can't remember the last time i subscribed to Netflix, i think it was before they started clamping down on us UK netflix users making a US account and enjoying all the good US stuff we don't get on the UK version, i loved the US netflix for the likes of The rockford files, Kojak, Streets of Sanfran, all the good 60/70's cops American shows, and not the UK guff they had the gall to charge us over here for..........The Bill. lol

#6098838

gUNN1993

2023-02-01 17:05

Webhiker:

Have you seriously never heard about Plex ?

If Plex was a realistic option for most people, Netflix would never have existed. Put it this way, I have a Plex server with 2 Tb of content, full outside network access, 1Gb duplex line and everyone I donor to would still rather use Netflix Maybe that will change when I cut my sub but tbh I doubt it (Granted my current server is a Pi4 so the transcoding issue is a bit of a bugger and causes too many issue to be considered a relaibel alternative until i upgrade)

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0blivious

2023-02-01 17:43

RealNC:

It's not stealing. It's just against their TOS. You can put whatever you want in your TOS. Doesn't make it legally binding. Here's my TOS: "You are only allowed to read my posts if you wear a silly hat." If you don't wear a silly hat while reading this, you're stealing from me.

If that ridiculous attitude is how you folks want to justify what is obvious theft of their service, so be it. Share your PW with all of your family and friends and feel righteous that it's technically not illegal.

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Ricepudding

2023-02-01 18:07

gUNN1993:

I think the idea that Piracy will replace password sharing is flawed, password sharing is a 1/10 difficulty with lots of benefits (All devices, no storage issues etc). To move to piracy people would either have to find websites that stream (dodgy looking) then wait for the inevitable 6 popup adds (gross) or Start torrenting (scary and not available on all devices right away) I think that they'll get a big hit short term but overall work out in their favor (assuming they can get some good draw shows) Remember most people aren't on IT related forums for a good portion of their day and they WILL pay for convivence.

think you really under estimate how big priate steam boxs have become, so many are going to one now. and as for pop ups even my nan knows about ad blocker xD torrents yeah people stay away from but sites to watch stuff? nah easy as pie always has been especially in say the anime community where we have a bunch of insanely good sites but chances are all this will do is take people from netflix and stick them on disney or amazon who care far less

#6098868

Reddoguk

2023-02-01 18:13

Me and my ex misses both use Disney+ from only one account. Before that it was Sky Go we shared. If Disney did the same we would just cancel the monthly subscription of £7.99 because honestly we hardly use the service as is. Infact i've been thinking of just getting rid of it anyway. It's basically just free money for Disney every month. I mean 99% of it has already been watched so basically we are paying for mainly repeats.

#6098869

Ricepudding

2023-02-01 18:14

0blivious:

If that ridiculous attitude is how you folks want to justify what is obvious theft of their service, so be it. Share your PW with all of your family and friends and feel righteous that it's technically not illegal.

Firstly why defense a muti-million dollar company secondly Netflix pushed the whole password sharing in the past, they have only recently changed their tone after losing subs cause this stupid notion of endless growth thirdly why does netflix sell a sub that allows for 4 screens to be used at once if they dont want sharing? and no its not illegal, a company opening shared doing it and promited it. now of course they can change their minds, its a dumb idea and its going to backfire but hey.

#6098895

fantaskarsef

2023-02-01 18:56

Increasing prices yearly (for no increase in quality or quantity of content) when in reality they are just trying to cover up for lost subscriptions already, on the back of already existing customers. Banning account sharing and actively moving against it, on the back of already existing customers who simply don't agree with the price. I'd be happy to buy 4K with only one screen, if they let me me have it for 1/4th the price of a 4K account, yes? Oh no, that doesn't exist, we're sorry for that. If I get the email to stop account sharing, I'll make sure the other people know ahead of time, and then simply quit. I don't think any other the other people I share with cares about it enough to subscribe, since one already told me they don't know what to watch, and the other one's never had a single streaming account for himself since he would never use it. So in reality, all they successfully do is getting on people's nerves enough to run down their user count. If one didn't do it yet, now's the time to buy shorts on NFLX.

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reix2x

2023-02-01 20:16

0blivious:

If that ridiculous attitude is how you folks want to justify what is obvious theft of their service, so be it. Share your PW with all of your family and friends and feel righteous that it's technically not illegal.

what is legal or illegal is the point? because marihuana is illegal in almost any place in the world, and is a stupid plant... banks and big stores tricking you to make you pay little fortunes because "you didn't read the whole contract" is perfectly legal. i meant, if you are a cop is ok i guess.. but i fail to understand why you defend this anti-consumer practices. Big companies are owning us little by little and that should be considered illegal too.

#6098945

Neo Cyrus

2023-02-01 20:51

For years now I've kept paying for Netflix for my family to use the account, I almost never use it (last year just once for Graham Hancock's series which was an exception), if they start counting that as sharing a lot of people are going to just cancel their accounts if they keep being annoying about it. Or better yet, they'll cancel their own sales with bans. Greedy mongs.

#6098960

SplashDown

2023-02-01 21:04

Neo Cyrus:

For years now I've kept paying for Netflix for my family to use the account, I almost never use it (last year just once for Graham Hancock's series which was an exception), if they start counting that as sharing a lot of people are going to just cancel their accounts if they keep being annoying about it. Or better yet, they'll cancel their own sales with bans. Greedy mongs.

Ya I know BS isn't it.

#6098962

Prince Valiant

2023-02-01 21:06

0blivious:

If that ridiculous attitude is how you folks want to justify what is obvious theft of their service, so be it. Share your PW with all of your family and friends and feel righteous that it's technically not illegal.

What's being stolen? As far as I understand it, I don't use Netflix and never will, a subscription is paying for maximum concurrent connections and video bitrate and resolution.

#6098967

SplashDown

2023-02-01 21:10

Fck it I'm closing my account then, there going to lose people and business then lets see how they like that. I think it's in there best interest to leave this alone, there gonna lose more by doing this. But hey they wanna be azz's go head ...I've got over 120 tv shows in files on HDD, so fine I'll watch those. Plus I can watch Roku for free screw 'em.

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TheDeeGee

2023-02-01 21:18

I guess in a few months time we'll see a news post that Netflix is shutting down.

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Raserian

2023-02-01 21:19

RealNC:

It's not stealing. It's just against their TOS. You can put whatever you want in your TOS. Doesn't make it legally binding. Here's my TOS: "You are only allowed to read my posts if you wear a silly hat." If you don't wear a silly hat while reading this, you're stealing from me.

It absolutely is legally binding. When you join a service of some kind, you are given terms of service - that is contract between you and the other party. If you want to use the service you have to agree with TOS and therefore abide by its terms. If you will not use service in this way, they can ban you and you cannot sue them back because you didn't follow their rules. And they can sue you for damages your misuse have caused. Let's say you create netflix account for $10 a month, and then you will share your account with three other people, and you will charge them each, $20 a month. You will be doing it for ten years and let's say other 100 000 users do it too. Those damages then accumulate very quickly and they are considered stolen money. It's not as easy as you might think. In a court of law, any contracts/agreements you make with anyone else IS legally binding.

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allesclar

2023-02-01 22:36

The main issue is the cost of Netflix versus other services. It literally is 3 times the price. Amount of content is irrelivant, you can only watch so much at any given time. You can share Disney+ and Amazon prime.....both of which are a third of the price. What is this high price we are paying for all about then, if we cannot share with our family? Over priced documentary exclusives by any chance? 🙂

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H83

2023-02-01 22:53

Raserian:

It absolutely is legally binding. When you join a service of some kind, you are given terms of service - that is contract between you and the other party. If you want to use the service you have to agree with TOS and therefore abide by its terms. If you will not use service in this way, they can ban you and you cannot sue them back because you didn't follow their rules. And they can sue you for damages your misuse have caused. Let's say you create netflix account for $10 a month, and then you will share your account with three other people, and you will charge them each, $20 a month. You will be doing it for ten years and let's say other 100 000 users do it too. Those damages then accumulate very quickly and they are considered stolen money. It's not as easy as you might think. In a court of law, any contracts/agreements you make with anyone else IS legally binding.

That`s not entirily true because TOS have to abide to the general laws of different countries and sometimes they have some terms that are too far reaching and sometimes not even legal! This doesn`t mean it`s the case being discussed here, only that TOS from companies are not like gospel and have several terms of questionable legal validity.

#6099022

anticupidon

2023-02-01 23:04

Going broke or going woke? Netflix: Why not both?