LGA Socket 1700 for Alder Lake-S in 2021? (8 BIG + 8 little cores)

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The little part must have its own VRM to make sense, a big and heavy 8-16 phase VRM will be way outside its peak efficiency with only 1 phase running, but it still needs to be able to deliver 300W for the strong cores. I am already running at 1-2W per core idle on my first gen Ryzen and i am guessing the mobile 4000 series is at ½-1W per core, so what is there left to gain compared to what is already possible?
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schmidtbag:

@Fox2232 Did you not read the post you quoted? Pretty much everything you said there is why I'm saying I don't want low-power cores in a desktop, but rather, equally powerful cores but at different types of tasks. I agree with pretty much everything you're saying but I think you're misinterpreting me. Though, I do think a traditional big.LITTLE design would be good for mobile devices (and again, home, office, or general-purpose PCs).
My reply was not an counter argument to yours.
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sykozis:

Even if Intel manages do to big.LITTLE correctly, MS will just screw it up anyway..... Modifying the scheduler to send the correct threads to the correct cores is not something I think MS is capable of doing... They're already having a hard enough time releasing an update for Windows 10 that doesn't cause major issues.... Why give them something else to botch???
I totally agree, but I was thinking more of my own needs, not the needs of Windows users 😀
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ToxicTaZ:

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schmidtbag:

Well that's why I said I don't like their approach. I agree that having efficient cores and power-hungry cores for desktop is kinda pointless, but, I think the idea of 2 sets of cores with different capabilities (but otherwise similar power consumption) would make for a much better overall CPU. Servers, workstations, and PCs dedicated to gaming (and nothing else) wouldn't need such a thing; they're better off having all cores be exactly the same. But for home, office, and general-purpose PCs, having 2 sets of cores would be very beneficial to maximizing performance and efficiency.
To what point? I wouldn't expect to save but like $10 a year in electricity and that's being optimistic. In anything that runs off battery Im on board it makes since but everything else its a sacrifice of a lot of performance for a little power savings. I still think this big.LITTLE is going to turn out for laptop chips only, if it is true at all.
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JamesSneed:

To what point? I wouldn't expect to save but like $10 a year in electricity and that's being optimistic. In anything that runs off battery Im on board it makes since but everything else its a sacrifice of a lot of performance for a little power savings. I still think this big.LITTLE is going to turn out for laptop chips only, if it is true at all.
Is there some reason people aren't reading my post properly? I said I don't think it's that great of an idea for desktops.
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karma777police:

It is 8 x86-x64 Cores and 8 ARM x64 cores.
Performance would be absolutely abysmal.....

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