Intel Xe based Discrete GPU shown with Destiny 2

#5748809

Undying

2020-01-08 09:30

I know its a mobile but performance seems crappy. Destiny 2 is optimized to run decent even on older hardware.

#5748820

rl66

2020-01-08 10:02

Undying:

I know its a mobile but performance seems crappy. Destiny 2 is optimized to run decent even on older hardware.

Agree it run superfine on GTX 950 and even on RX 550... but of course, for laptop/mobile it is way better than actual Intel production.

#5748824

teleguy

2020-01-08 10:10

Hilbert Hagedoorn:

The efficiency was reported to be very low compared to the competition and the driver should also take a lot of time to improve.

Raja continuing the Vega tradition?

#5748839

Stormyandcold

2020-01-08 10:49

Disappointing, but, I already said in another thread that if they really had something they'd be showing it off big-time. That's not the case and it's ended-up being a much more low-key reveal. I still fully expect no desktop versions this year.

#5748842

fantaskarsef

2020-01-08 10:52

Why people expect a 1st gen product to wipe the floor, or even step up head to head with specialised company's products of decades, is beyond me. All this shows is, they probably have engineering samples with drivers. Not much more, no settings known, no res, no fps...

#5748854

asturur

2020-01-08 11:25

fantaskarsef:

Why people expect a 1st gen product to wipe the floor, or even step up head to head with specialised company's products of decades, is beyond me. All this shows is, they probably have engineering samples with drivers. Not much more, no settings known, no res, no fps...

Because is so much easier to shit on other people's job.

#5748866

fantaskarsef

2020-01-08 12:20

asturur:

Because is so much easier to crap on other people's job.

Hahaha you mad bro? Because it's a difficult matter and invention doesn't always work out brilliantly and perfectly on first try. Because hardware design is an evolving process. Because improvement only comes from learning from mistakes. Because no master was born but trained to become one. That's why it's silly to expect to do better than everyone else on first try. But I see you didn't get what I tried to say, or that principle is new to you.

#5748868

Undying

2020-01-08 12:23

People ware expecting Intel just compete with nvidia and amd right of the bat. Im expecting drivers to be a mess even if the hardware is capable.

#5748872

asturur

2020-01-08 12:38

fantaskarsef:

Hahaha you mad bro? Because it's a difficult matter and invention doesn't always work out brilliantly and perfectly on first try. Because hardware design is an evolving process. Because improvement only comes from learning from mistakes. Because no master was born but trained to become one. That's why it's silly to expect to do better than everyone else on first try. But I see you didn't get what I tried to say, or that principle is new to you.

No i was simply saying that people did not expect the first iteration to be perfect. People like to shit on what is not top notch and brag stuff like `Company X is not able to deliver a product as good as the product Y i just bought` and they like to set immaginary goals for hardware vendors and then complain that they did not reach them. Sometimes when the product is fine at iteration X, then is not priced correctly also.

#5748873

fantaskarsef

2020-01-08 12:39

asturur:

No i was simply saying that people did not expect the first iteration to be perfect. People like to crap on what is not top notch and brag stuff like `Company X is not able to deliver a product as good as the product Y i just bought` and they like to set immaginary goals for hardware vendors and then complain that they did not reach them. Sometimes when the product is fine at iteration X, then is not priced correctly also.

Yes, that makes sense, I have to agree with you.

#5748890

H83

2020-01-08 13:33

fantaskarsef:

Why people expect a 1st gen product to wipe the floor, or even step up head to head with specialised company's products of decades, is beyond me. All this shows is, they probably have engineering samples with drivers. Not much more, no settings known, no res, no fps...

This^^ It´s going to be a while until Intel is really competitive against AMD and Nvidia. I just hope they are on this project for the long run.

#5748923

asturur

2020-01-08 15:27

Other than that i am a macbook user. I do not see apple transitioning to AMD soon. So if i will get a new macbook with a better intel GPU i will be happy anyway.

#5748945

D3M1G0D

2020-01-08 17:14

fantaskarsef:

Why people expect a 1st gen product to wipe the floor, or even step up head to head with specialised company's products of decades, is beyond me. All this shows is, they probably have engineering samples with drivers. Not much more, no settings known, no res, no fps...

It was wishful thinking. People were so sick and tired of Nvidia's dominance (and price gouging) that they were looking for any alternative that would provide more competition. I always thought it was far-fetched, especially since it's Intel, who's tried dGPUs before and failed. Another reason is Raja. They thought his experience with AMD (and vast Intel resources) would help Intel build a competitive product.

#5748962

illrigger

2020-01-08 18:17

Undying:

People ware expecting Intel just compete with nvidia and amd right of the bat. Im expecting drivers to be a mess even if the hardware is capable.

To be fair, they NEED to be able to do that, or they will get no buy-in from manufacturers. Even if they put Xe Mobile on a package like they did with the Hades Canyon chip last year, if it isn't cost effective then they will get no bites, just like they did then. Intel isn't known for sticking with a strategy when they aren't making money on it, so if by next gen they aren't selling chips, then this whole thing will go the way of StrongArm and the Atom Z-series.

#5748997

Astyanax

2020-01-08 19:16

They don't need to be able to do that, intel has the resources at hand to crawl up on them in increments.

#5749097

sykozis

2020-01-09 03:53

illrigger:

To be fair, they NEED to be able to do that, or they will get no buy-in from manufacturers. Even if they put Xe Mobile on a package like they did with the Hades Canyon chip last year, if it isn't cost effective then they will get no bites, just like they did then. Intel isn't known for sticking with a strategy when they aren't making money on it, so if by next gen they aren't selling chips, then this whole thing will go the way of StrongArm and the Atom Z-series.

Intel doesn't need other manufacturers to produce graphics cards for them. Intel is capable of doing that themselves. Intel also doesn't need to be able to go "toe to toe" with NVidia and AMD with their first iteration. They simply need to have a competent product that's priced properly.

#5749103

illrigger

2020-01-09 04:39

Last time I checked, Intel doesn't make laptops, which is what this article is about. You did read the article, right?

#5749188

UnrealGaming

2020-01-09 14:46

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#5749198

Undying

2020-01-09 15:28

UnrealGaming:

To my eye that looks sub 30fps 1080p low. https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/destiny_2_pc_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,4.html Even the gt1030 have 37fps at highest settings.

#5749213

fantaskarsef

2020-01-09 16:37

Showing off the first dGPU in a laptop, playing a shooter with controller... mkay.