Intel reverses EOL Pentium G3420 and starts selling 2013 22nm processors again
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Evildead666
They have the same problem as AMD, just not in a good way.
AMD can't make enough chips to satisfy demand.
They also won't make a huge amount of CPU's in advance, and stockpile.
People order so many chips, they deliver so many chips.
Intel has historically made a boatload of chips, and then sold them (often with a "Rebate").
The demand has always been there, historically.
Look at Dell and HP, having to finally introduce AMD laptops and Desktops.
Intel can't hold them back any more, they have no leverage left, and Dell and HP want to be around in a year or so...
The fact that Intel is having to fab chips back on the 22nm process, is a massive blow to them.
no-one should be going backwards...
Yup, they may have had their best year yet, but that includes markets that were just beginning last year.
We'll see where they are next year....
Undying
I dont see it being cheaper than 3000g. Makes no sense, Intel is loosing it.
Brownz
Does this mean someone is going to start manufacturing 1150 motherboards again?
XenthorX
If they're selling Haswell , does that mean my Haswell-e is considered cutting edge now? 😱
@IceVip God i miss Robin Williams.. 🙁
TieSKey
Seriously guys, I don't get why u bash intel for this... if they can still sell 6+ years old cpus, if someone is actually buying it.... that's the wet dream of any tech company.
Problem lies probably on the damn oem market selling crappy pre-build pcs to people ignoring they could pay their 15 years old neighbor 20 bucks to build them a much better one for the same price....
rflair
Moderator
Not going to bash Intel but it is odd that they can't produce or sell a current variant chip and just lower the specs built on 14nm.
Intel had had what three socket designs since 22nm, makes it seem like all of their chips for the last 8 years could have worked on the same chipset if they release this.
southamptonfc
First thing to say is I don't know a lot about this stuff....
AMD had their highest quarterly revenue since 2005 which seems to indicate more of a broad increase in demand than any stellar performance from Intel.
This story could be considered a good news story for Intel in a way. Both AMD and Intel are struggling to fulfill demand for CPUs and so Intel feels able to sell 7 year old CPUs to satisfy demand.
schmidtbag
Last I checked, Intel was short for "Integrated Electronics".
I think you're confusing their slogan (at least one of them) which was "innovators of tomorrow". That being said..... now it's more like "regressors of tomorrow" or perhaps "innovators of yesteryear" lol.
Although I don't disagree with this point, I think there's a different way to look at it:
AMD is struggling to keep up with demand. Intel (and in particular, the Pentium name) still carry a lot more weight to people who don't know anything about computers. People will buy a Pentium simply because it's a familiar name, and they don't give a crap about the specs. Since Intel is also struggling with stock, all they have to do is give people an option; the only option, and it's very easy money for them.
As much as AMD is taking advantage of Intel's difficulties with 10nm and expensive monolithic dies, Intel is taking advantage of TSMC's supply issues.
panogr
pathetic...
JethroTu11
If I could get one of these for $40 and a decent new motherboard for $40, it would be a good way to put my old DDR3 to use playing old games.
Stormyandcold
TBH, I myself would definitely go AMD no problem for my next upgrade, afterall, I started with AMD cpus. However, for friends and family; I would likely go Intel for their builds as I really don't want to be "Mr Tech on call". That's just the way it is.
Dazz
IDK if this processor is manufactured by Samsung this seems to be from Intels 22nm Chipset manufacturing which was announced that over a year ago. Also i don't think Samsungs 22nm is the same as Intels 22nm fabrication. Since 14nm has been in circulation for many years for Intel and they have a shortage doesn't bode well for their 10nm for Desktop either if they are struggling so bad with their existing 14nm unless their 14+++nm yields are so bad.
blkspade
It's not like there is demand for those specific CPUs, just that they need to have something available. Intel is getting trounced in the DIY market, but still have deals in place with OEMs. Intel are probably trying to give these things away just so AMD can't fill the gap. There is still value in selling products with the Intel Logo on them, even when they are garbage. It's more likely their revenue came from server chip sales due to the overhead of the performance losses from mitigations. In that space, where there is no fix for the hyper-threading flaw, (forcing them to turn it off) the only recourse is to add more servers.
Fender178
Oh God why? They have much better Pentium chips they released since this chip that have 2c/4t. This is just ridiculous on the part of Intel.
blkspade
Its probably about the node more than the specific chip. They are at capacity on their 14nm node, and they build their chips around a specific node. They still have 22nm available for chipset production, and it can already produce Haswell CPUs.
Kaarme
Maybe the CPUs will all go to OEMs.
Dazz
Yeah they are specific to likes of large OEM's like Dell and HP.
Celcius
How about a little Twilight Zone for just a moment? Assume AMD is experiencing an extremely severe, ongoing 7nm production issue, and let's step into an alternate reality, or parallel universe, or whatever fantasy scenario blows your skirt up:
(Please note this isn't a critique of Hilbert's presentation, but rather the subject matter.)
"We all know that AMD has huge capacity issues on the 7nm node. Guess what? The manufacturer now tries an unusual approach as AMD announced the return of the A8-6600K. That is Richland, from 2013, and guess what? It is still produced on an old 32-nm process.
Production was discontinued years ago as the processor literally has an EOL status, but with this 'bypass' AMD can fill up the low-cost segment for procs in the sub-100 USD/EUR range.
The A8-6600K is a four-thread processor without hyperthreading running 3.9 GHz on an outdated architecture. The A8-6600K is slower than the current Athlon 3000G; the differences should be manageable though. The cost will be 45 euros, which should actually be the price of an Athlon 3000G. But the 3000G, for example, is currently at almost 60 euros due to the 7nm shortage."
Now, I spotted AMD an A8, rather than an A6, to placate those who insist that a Richland "quad" is really only a dual-core processor. So, feel free to adjust the numbers of this admittedly ridiculous hypothetical as desired, but would anyone, in any reality, actually give this a pass?
anticupidon
Intel, buddy...are you all right?
You are NOT yourself lately.
Or the REAL you just surfaced and doesn't care anymore?
What it will be, then?
waltc3
Problems at Intel internally are apparently far worse than most people know. The bad news doesn't stop--doesn't even slow--it simply multiplies. This decade old, discontinued-in-2013 cpu architecture competes with nothing on the AMD product list. Talk about milking your ancient architectures...whew... I should say "attempting to milk" because any demand for this old thing has yet to be demonstrated. Buyer: "What ya' got for $40?" Intel: "This oldie-but-goodie--could have a few problems with Windows 10, maybe--we're--uh--still testing....Win7 OK?"
