Intel reverses EOL Pentium G3420 and starts selling 2013 22nm processors again

#5739027

IceVip

2019-12-09 08:58

http://e.lvme.me/kiafu9t.jpg

#5739032

cryohellinc

2019-12-09 09:10

I in Intel stands for - INNOVATION https://i.imgur.com/9LARNlI.jpg

#5739037

insp1re2600

2019-12-09 09:24

Disgrace

#5739038

longest

2019-12-09 09:28

so if they "reverse engineered it"... what? does it work on the 1151 v1 and v2 sockets? pretty essential point missing from the article.

#5739042

Octopuss

2019-12-09 09:41

LOL this is not even funny anymore.

#5739048

anticupidon

2019-12-09 09:50

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#5739049

Kaarme

2019-12-09 09:52

Did they even fix any of the security holes? This is quite weird stuff indeed. Maybe they should have had GF produce them some more modern lower clocks products. The GF 12nm process should be better than Intel's 22nm for that much.

#5739053

cryohellinc

2019-12-09 10:01

Kaarme:

Did they even fix any of the security holes? This is quite weird stuff indeed. Maybe they should have had GF produce them some more modern lower clocks products. The GF 12nm process should be better than Intel's 22nm for that much.

Considering that they offer to pay $140k to people that find bugs and loopholes in their hardware, rather than attempt to fix anything - I think the answer is obvious in this case. Giant is crumbling and it has issues, now they play dirty. [spoiler][youtube=eINDw7zH5dk][/spoiler]

#5739055

nevcairiel

2019-12-09 10:02

Kaarme:

Maybe they should have had GF produce them some more modern lower clocks products. The GF 12nm process should be better than Intel's 22nm for that much.

The costs to move a product to different node are quite substantial, so Intel outsourcing production of anything to a different fab would be an expensive undertaking - even if the other node claims to be the same size, they are all very different. On the OT: Intels "capacity issues" are only an issue because way too many people want to buy Intel CPUs, not because Intels capacity is "low". They can't produce enough for the demand that is there. In fact they have had record revenue the last quarters. If Intel can sell a 6 year old Pentium on 22nm, that doesn't sound like its a good thing for AMD, because if people are willing to buy those instead of AMD CPUs .. then AMD has some serious marketing work to do (or their CPUs are also not available?).

#5739056

alanm

2019-12-09 10:05

Doesnt have a chance vs AMDs 3000g $49 chip. Unless they're targeting the lowest end OEM market and can sell it for $30-35. Still enough for basic browsing, office, school work, etc.

#5739062

0blivious

2019-12-09 10:24

Checks calendar... Nope. Not April yet.

#5739065

anticupidon

2019-12-09 10:47

https://i.redd.it/4gekzyxsolw11.jpg

#5739070

geogan

2019-12-09 11:00

Old man Intel must have mis-heard me - need to shout louder - "I SAID I JUST REPLACED A HASWELL i7 970 CPU WITH AN AMD R9 3900X! NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND"

#5739073

Kaarme

2019-12-09 11:25

nevcairiel:

The costs to move a product to different node are quite substantial, so Intel outsourcing production of anything to a different fab would be an expensive undertaking - even if the other node claims to be the same size, they are all very different.

Intel's going to use Samsung's foundry as it is. But apparently it's still not enough if they went back to their archives to dig up ancient CPUs for reintroduction using their own old facilities, which probably have been only used for some ethernet chips and whatnot for years now.

#5739082

Evildead666

2019-12-09 11:52

nevcairiel:

The costs to move a product to different node are quite substantial, so Intel outsourcing production of anything to a different fab would be an expensive undertaking - even if the other node claims to be the same size, they are all very different. On the OT: Intels "capacity issues" are only an issue because way too many people want to buy Intel CPUs, not because Intels capacity is "low". They can't produce enough for the demand that is there. In fact they have had record revenue the last quarters. If Intel can sell a 6 year old Pentium on 22nm, that doesn't sound like its a good thing for AMD, because if people are willing to buy those instead of AMD CPUs .. then AMD has some serious marketing work to do (or their CPUs are also not available?).

AMD is selling all they can make, be it CPU's or GPU's. They have a lot less Fab time, as Intel has their own Fabs, and AMD is Fabless, so has to rely on TSMC and GF. The Fact that Intel has to go back to 22nm, doesn't make me think that Intel is selling soooo much stock, its that they converted too many Fabs to new Process, that didn't work. This is costing them HUGE amounts of cash, which they are going to hide from the shareholders somehow (as Fab upgrades etc...). Intel is up a SERIOUS creek, without a paddle, or maybe a spork. Yes, they have Huge market share, and money reserves, but that only lasts so long....

#5739090

nevcairiel

2019-12-09 12:36

Evildead666:

The Fact that Intel has to go back to 22nm, doesn't make me think that Intel is selling soooo much stock, its that they converted too many Fabs to new Process, that didn't work.

What is making me think that they are selling a lot of stock is their record revenues in the last year or so. Their margins have gone down as they lose some money on their fab problems, but the revenue is up, which means overall sales are doing just fine. https://www.anandtech.com/show/15030/intel-announces-q3-fy-2019-earnings-record-results Q3'19 was their highest quarter in revenue ever in the history of Intel.

#5739101

Silva

2019-12-09 13:10

What the actual f? This is getting out of hand, who still buys Intel CPUs anyway?

#5739102

QBI

2019-12-09 13:11

With all due respect to everyone mocking Intel on their decision, I sincerely doubt that anyone buying a Pentium CPU really cares which process is it build upon. The whole point of a budget build is to make it cheaper. They made a good call imho.

#5739107

airbud7

2019-12-09 13:20

geogan:

"I SAID I JUST REPLACED A HASWELL i7 970 CPU WITH AN AMD R9 3900X! NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND"

Westmere not Haswell

#5739114

H83

2019-12-09 13:36

I can understand bringing an old CPU back to life but surely they could use something better right?...