mbk1969:

And I will never go to AMD side due to my prejudice toward poor AMD chipsets (and drivers).

tsunami231:

hide man hide, there gona come for you... As for this debacle I been wating from updated microcodes from asrock since the debacle went public and I still waiting, I think it will be another month before those codes surface. last update from was from jan 24th as far asrock goes, and most they had updated were removed after the reboot issue was. Still think they handle this poorly and are continue to do so. 90% of public will remain un patched and not secure from this less the updates needed are made available to threw the OS.

tsunami231:

nice to hear update on this, still they need to force OS makers to PUSH Microcode updates, 90% public dont keep up with such fw/bios update and most never will, if it can be done with surface devices there no reason it cant be done for all devices , it just requires Manufacture to release what need and MS to push it. This whole rely on some one else to do it for them idea is a recipe for trouble. Intel is relying on customers to updates * again 90% public dont keep up with FW/Bios update and most never will either* Intel code easily make lil program with microcode update in it that will update there system to new microcode with click of button, but they wont, MS can push microcode update and has in the past, but I get they feeling they not gona push them either. When people start using that exploit and million start getting hit by it cause it was never plug cause it had to be done manual by people, they all wanted to not do what they should of i first place. there will be yet another law suit happening I said it once and will say it again, This mess and way it being handle is just as bad. 6months to year from now majority of people still wont be protected from this or patched. short of the new cpu that supposed to plug this.

tsunami231:

"if" intel and rest cpu makes would yes it would be alot easier but i dont seem them doing there all relying on "someone" else to do it for them

jaggerwild:

AMD is about to release there new CPU, you can't tell me its patched! Its a brand new platform, already with a black eye(there gonna sell it anyway)? Then patch it latter? Kinda sick of it all........

Fender178:

Yeah all the OEM manufacturer of the prebuilt PC or Laptop needs to do is link to the updater file just like they did with the Management Engine and all the Motherboard manufacturer is the same thing as the OEM manufacturer to make it easier on the customer. AMD did say their new CPUs will be protected from the vulnerabilities out of the box.

mbk1969:

Microsoft update for microcodes (finally) for Skylake H/S and Skylake U/Y & Skylake U23e https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4090007/intel-microcode-updates

Robbo9999:

That's interesting, it says there that microcode updates are included within the update - but I thought microcode could only be updated through the BIOS, I knew we had to wait for an updated BIOS from our motherboard manufacturer, but the wording suggests the updated microcode is included in this Windows Update, is that right?

Robbo9999:

That's interesting, it says there that microcode updates are included within the update - but I thought microcode could only be updated through the BIOS, I knew we had to wait for an updated BIOS from our motherboard manufacturer, but the wording suggests the updated microcode is included in this Windows Update, is that right?

Agent-A01:

OS can have MCUs run at boot phase for bug fixes. The microcode provided by windows update overrides the BIOS one at a software level.

mbk1969:

Microcode is just loaded into CPU either by BIOS and/or by OS. Also there is driver belonging to VMware team which does the same thing - checks in container file with microcodes (published by Intel for Linux OSs) and loads newer one from this file to CPU. But unfortunately this VMware driver is loaded too late for Windows to detect Meltdown/Spectre updates in microcode in CPU.

SerotoNiN:

You guys understand these patches are just smoke and mirrors, right? These CPU's are compromised, period end. No amount of patches will stop this on current cpu's. The architecture needs to be completely revamped. The patches are an illusion of security. Don't waste your time.

mbk1969:

If you have deep knowledge on the subject please share it with us in more details.

SerotoNiN:

Meltdown is a hardware flaw that allows programs to see what the OS is doing. Spectre is a hardware flaw that allows programs to see what other programs are doing. Both of those things are supposed to be restricted. Intel CPUs 'predict' what memory it will need to read in advance, which is not necessarily correct, but could allow access to it. For now, the fixes for this are going to be software updates. As in, Microsoft is releasing a patch that you can install (or not) to prevent it. But the bugs are at the hardware level, which isn't changing...yet. https://meltdownattack.com/