Intel NUC 13 Pro (Arena Canyon) review

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these mini pc reviews shock me every time. 3 weeks ago i upgraded the ryzen 2700 (65w) -> 5800x ,im happy with the performance gain in photo editing but the noise and thermals is not something im happy with. On the second day i enabled the bios setting that restricts 5800x to 65 watts and its still a worth upgrade from 2700 but man seeing the results of this i7 at 92 watts in multithreaded worloads make me wonder ,do i need a full tower ? 🙂
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Would be nice to see 3DMark Wild Life Extreme for iGPUs. It's an offscreen 4K cross platform test, so can be indirectly compared to phone iGPUs.
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GlassGR:

these mini pc reviews shock me every time. 3 weeks ago i upgraded the ryzen 2700 (65w) -> 5800x ,im happy with the performance gain in photo editing but the noise and thermals is not something im happy with. On the second day i enabled the bios setting that restricts 5800x to 65 watts and its still a worth upgrade from 2700 but man seeing the results of this i7 at 92 watts in multithreaded worloads make me wonder ,do i need a full tower ? 🙂
nope you don't need a tower. however the new Ryzen 7045HX will put that to shame and save you time/money over the 13th gen i7. it is so powerful it outperforms desktops with 16 true cores and 32 threads @ a top tdp of 75 watts AND the graphics are far superior - enough to game on. there will be a range of mini-pc's with this cpu and it'll be worth the wait as you aren't paying for the screen or gpu of the laptops oh and it has a dedicated A.I. fgpa just for the kind of work you do
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GlassGR:

these mini pc reviews shock me every time. 3 weeks ago i upgraded the ryzen 2700 (65w) -> 5800x ,im happy with the performance gain in photo editing but the noise and thermals is not something im happy with. On the second day i enabled the bios setting that restricts 5800x to 65 watts and its still a worth upgrade from 2700 but man seeing the results of this i7 at 92 watts in multithreaded worloads make me wonder ,do i need a full tower ? 🙂
This is one of the things I really hate about the modern socketed desktop CPU market - these chips are pushed to such absurd and inefficient clock speeds, and since the motherboard/chipset has to be designed to compensate for such a wide variety of product capabilities, there's quite a lot of efficiency losses from that too. I wish there were ITX boards with these BGA chips but I just can't find any. I'm even okay with something like a NUC, if it has a x16 slot (even if it only has x8 lanes) where I can just transplant the motherboard if necessary.
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schmidtbag:

This is one of the things I really hate about the modern socketed desktop CPU market - these chips are pushed to such absurd and inefficient clock speeds, and since the motherboard/chipset has to be designed to compensate for such a wide variety of product capabilities, there's quite a lot of efficiency losses from that too. I wish there were ITX boards with these BGA chips but I just can't find any. I'm even okay with something like a NUC, if it has a x16 slot (even if it only has x8 lanes) where I can just transplant the motherboard if necessary.
itx is too much of a moneymaker for BGA until the board partners rake in the hidden 15% margin, of which 5-7% is the pcb/design cost. it's sad really because itx has been the most popular form factor the last five years for new builds. MSI is getting $60 over the cost of an matx am5 mobo. and Gigabyte ain't far behind. and right now they're the only itx am5 mobos. b760 is similar with slightly less of a difference in mobo price. late model boards are the only place to find similar prices for feature sets
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Every time I read such reviews about NUC or MiniPC I ask myself the same question as @GlassGR. Do I need a tower for every day computing? To context, actual setup I have would be possibly the last ATX computer that I built. From now on, smaller form makes more sense than ever before. And lower power consumption. @Hilbert Hagedoorn very in depth review. Thanks for the good read, made my flight time more enjoyable.
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I do like idea of these for general pc usage like for my dad it would be amazing, for gaming i not sure, old game that 10+ years old would probably be fine i guess but $ vs performance is amazing the noise i dont know it one those thing I would have to really hear @anticupidon I thinking the same thing, one these for every day use and have ATX for only when I actual want to game. But most thing now are on back burner, I gona have to replace my TV do it developing lines, it not even 5 years old.
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The price is this verse a much cheaper and nearly as small setup that can game, easy pass. But either way, thanks for the review boss man.
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tunejunky:

it is so powerful it outperforms desktops with 16 true cores and 32 threads @ a top tdp of 75 watts
true, it makes minced meat out of desktop 5950x
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tunejunky:

nope you don't need a tower. however the new Ryzen 7045HX will put that to shame and save you time/money over the 13th gen i7. it is so powerful it outperforms desktops with 16 true cores and 32 threads @ a top tdp of 75 watts AND the graphics are far superior - enough to game on. there will be a range of mini-pc's with this cpu and it'll be worth the wait as you aren't paying for the screen or gpu of the laptops oh and it has a dedicated A.I. fgpa just for the kind of work you do
Hate to correct you here but... graphics need to be dedicated on the 7045HX series. The iGPU on the Ryzen 9 7945HX is a Radeon 610M with 2 CUs The iGPU on the Ryzen 9 7940HS is a Radeon 780M with 12 CUs. The 7045HX are built for different use-cases vs the 7040HS.
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tunejunky:

itx is too much of a moneymaker for BGA until the board partners rake in the hidden 15% margin, of which 5-7% is the pcb/design cost. it's sad really because itx has been the most popular form factor the last five years for new builds. MSI is getting $60 over the cost of an matx am5 mobo. and Gigabyte ain't far behind. and right now they're the only itx am5 mobos. b760 is similar with slightly less of a difference in mobo price. late model boards are the only place to find similar prices for feature sets
Asrock do nice itx version, but right now there is only high end version (too expensive), mid and low version soon. I love itx, small and powerfull 🙂
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rl66:

Asrock do nice itx version, but right now there is only high end version (too expensive), mid and low version soon. I love itx, small and powerfull 🙂
the sooner the better;)