Intel Haswell to be easier to overclock
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maize1951
Wasn't the Haswell supposed to be soldered to the motherboard and with no socket?
-Tj-
nope.
On topic;
Im aiming for 5.2Ghz :P
125mhz x 42multi
Chillin
Nope.
pimp_gimp
Only low end parts were rumored to be BGA sockets, then Intel officially killed the rumor.
Denial
That was Broadwell not Haswell and AFAIK they are still doing it for low end parts.
kens30
I will wait for officiall benchmarks first to see how good they will overclock assuming they will be using fluxless solder this time and not that cheap thermal compound like ivy,to be honest i personally think they might have intentionally used that cheap thermal paste on ivy to limit it's oc potential so more consumers coming let's say from Sandy bridge will be more tempted to upgrade to the new platform and not seeing it as a side grade, just imagine an Ivy bridge running at 5ghz on air performing similarly with a Haswell at let's say 4.6ghz (just an example) that for me is more of a side grade then an upgrade,and limiting the mainstream cpu's to 4 cores with HT,i know that they have practically no competition from Amd apart from the integrated GPU
but i would like to see at least 6 core parts with HT,before upgrading again....
Just my thoughts.............
IcE
Nice conspiracy theory. The reason they used paste was because they didn't have a feasible way to use fluxless solder to bind the new smaller 22nm die with the heat spreader. It was a technical limitation at the time, and had nothing to do with cost savings.
IPlayNaked
Bad temperatures are due to the contact between the IHS and die, not because of the TIM, but because of the black adhesive they used.
Chillin
Yes, because Intel sabotages all its parts for the 0.1% of people that overclock their CPU.
How did you ever figure out Intel's master plan?
WhiteLightning
Moderator
Isnt each generation easier to OC ?
warlord
yeap both technically and as an unofficial marketing rule even subconsciously you tend to believe that.
---TK---
how much easier can oc be than socket 1155? OC these chips is a huge snoozefest it so easy already, no real sense of accomplishment over previous intel chips
Neo Cyrus
Good, good. Higher OCs will compensate a little bit for the lack of proper increases in frequency and clock for clock performance over the last FIVE YEARS. Welcome to the lack of competition.
Honestly it feels like 1 step above Nehalem, and those were released in 2008 weren't they? In fact I'm still using a Nehalem chip and I'm not the only one.
---TK---
more like 3 steps, SB and IB are steps 1 and 2
kens30
Jeez we are just discussing here
there's no need to be ironic by saying "How did I ever figure out Intel's master plan?" (sorry if i got this definition wrong as my English is not 100% perfect) I am sure you know that all cpu's go through various stress testing and quality control to ensure 100% stability at stock clocks and it is already a well known fact that Intel cheaped out with a bad choice of using tim instead of fluxless solder for Ivy bridge thus limiting it greatly from it's overclocking potential due to the heat .And i am not saying Intel sabotages all its parts for the 0.1% of people that overclock their CPU i was referring to Ivy bridge only.
Please let's just stay on topic about Haswell I really hope it turns out to be a great cpu with great overclocking headroom.
Neo Cyrus
I said feels. And it indeed feels like 1 evolutionary step to me. The real world performance difference per step was not all that much.
Chillin
It was sarcasm, don't take it personally.
Personally, I feel that we should be grateful to Intel for continuing to make an SKU that is O/C. Especially considering its market leading position.
kens30
Sorry about that and don,t worry i am not taking it personally 🙂
Yeh i feel the same about Intel with practically no competition for per core performance which matters the most I would love to see what oc this chip can achieve with high end air cooling 6ghz????:)
Neo Cyrus
I'd be happy if 5.5GHz (maybe 125x44?) is possible with standard cooling like high end air or those crappy self contained water coolers. I'd settle for 5.
PhazeDelta1
Easier? I didn't know it was hard to overclock.
