LEEc337:

If they can supply people will buy they need market share so keeping it cheap would help that too

Undying:

I think Intel is targeting laptop users with these atleast the first batch so we wont see many desktop variants and those gonna be scalped and inflated.

Kaarme:

Intel would need to open its own (web)stores to sell directly to gamers to keep prices low. Otherwise the retail step will simply double the prices to the current insane miners-only level. But then again, maybe they will indeed do just that in the USA, like AMD and Nvidia are doing. Folks outside of the USA can only dream of such luxury. Custom models from AIB partners will have heavily bloated prices, just like the AMD and Nvidia models do. Nothing Intel can do about that.

JOHN30011887:

Its nice to have competition but tbh i will most likely always stay with Nvidia, I like having proper G-sync and all other gaming features from them, to me they have great driver support (even though they really need to update the CP to something more modern looking)

tunejunky:

Not Quite, but mostly correct. there is a hell of a lot Intel can do mainly with their most dedicated vendor - Dell. Dell has a robust online retail presence (if i'm not mistaken #1 in direct sales) selling primarily Intel product. Dell isn't (but could be) an AIB, but they don't need to be in this case. Intel can control the flow of gpu's through Dell's advanced (custom) software and Dell can limit the number of gpu's sold to individual clients. Dell can also limit large sales to pre-existing clientele, none of whom is involved in mining (Enterprise and limited brick and mortar).

Kaarme:

I have never really considered Dell laptops, so I'm not too familiar with them, but can you actually buy a graphics card alone from Dell for a reasonable price? Or are they only additional options for Dell desktop PC orders? You could get video cards inside famous OEM PCs all the time (more or less), for a lower price than individually from a regular PC component store, but since this is Guru3D and we all typically build our own PCs, I feel like it's not relevant to pay attention to that when complaining about the market. Your point is valid, of course, but it might still be of scant comfort for us. Let's also not forget that AMD, Nvidia, and Intel in the future don't really care if their cards end up in miner or gamer hands. A sell is a sell. Marketing speeches are a different thing from reality. Nvidia has, in the past, called all of their RTX 30xx sales as sales to gamers, as well. I can't remember if AMD has done the same or if AMD has bothered to say anything.

MonstroMart:

Can they even know precisely how many goes to gamers and how many to miners? I mean they ship GPU to 3rd party manufacturers and 3rd party manufacturers are the one shipping the graphic cards to retailers (and likely selling some of them directly to big mining farm). As much as i hate the current state of the GPU market i'm not sure it's AMD or nVidia fault nor it is their responsibility to clean this mess. Mining should really be regulated (like everything else) and at the end of the day it's our duty as citizen to make pressure for it to happen. Like right to repair nothing will change until real pressure is applied.

Kaarme:

Yeah, it's not their responsibility, but I think it's a bit ridiculous to claim the cards are a massive success among gamers when most cards end up in mining rigs. The AIBs as well advertise the cards with 100% gaming imagery, fully knowing it's miners who get their hands on those cards. That's what I'm complaining about.