barbacot:

Overlooking the clearly malicious tone of the author it is good news. Finally Intel is moving because in the actual scenario if intel will not make a move soon then you will buy an AMD top cpu with the price that you pay for a used car - oh wait on ebay it is already 850 Euro (3900x) and a used car not so good is around that amount of money. Interesting how on every site but here people are talking about the high price for this premium cpu because of amd problems that are similar with intel volume shortage at i 9900k launch. So good for them let's see how the new cpu's will be comparing to amd - and now thunders: intel shill, blue boy, etc

Astyanax:

PCIE 7 it is.

barbacot:

Overlooking the clearly malicious tone of the author it is good news. Finally Intel is moving because in the actual scenario if intel will not make a move soon then you will buy an AMD top cpu with the price that you pay for a used car - oh wait on ebay it is already 850 Euro (3900x) and a used car not so good is around that amount of money. Interesting how on every site but here people are talking about the high price for this premium cpu because of amd problems that are similar with intel volume shortage at i 9900k launch. So good for them let's see how the new cpu's will be comparing to amd - and now thunders: intel shill, blue boy, etc

IceVip:

If PCI 4.0 requires a fan, does that mean Intel will bring out the chiller this time around for 5.0?

vbetts:

Considering the 3900x retails for 529.99 euros, I highly doubt this is case. But what problems are there from either side? And what communities are talking about the opposite being true? PCMR, Anandtech, Tom's, even Linus are all pretty much saying what the general guru3d community is saying about Zen 2, Coffee Lake, and Comet Lake requiring a new socket.

Minotaur:

It'll probably be PCIe 5.0, last I read spec is finalised soon.

Denial:

How is it a moot point when it's backwards compatible? My 4.0 drives will still be faster for me now and on PCIE5 and PCIE6 while it's not on Intel. You keep repeating this idea that PCIE4 doesn't matter and I don't understand why when I'm getting direct benefits from it literally right now and if I keep these drives on every future specification that both Intel/AMD will support.

jaggerwild:

I have to Change my direction here, as I never even looked at the price of a new socket board(as Intel always makes you buy). And I must say in that perspective I do feel all the AMD people voices in my ear as buying a $500 mother board every few years is not cool!!!!! Only argument I would make is this: I have a $500 mother board and a socket 2011 3930K, still going. And with my custom loop, I can run it at almost 5Mhz with 16GB except for USB 3.0 and a few non essential stuff I could still use this board, compared to almost all of the Ryzen Fall CPU'S(opps!)(almost being the server CPU'S no one here will be buying) my board n chip are still relevant(except for watts at the wall and power consumption). No offense but Linus and Toms lolz! o_Oo_Oo_O

jwb1:

PCIE4 is already outdated with PCIE5. Perhaps Intel is waiting it out a bit. A new socket will hopefully bring an improved IHS. And thanks to AMD being competitive, pricing should be good.

Evildead666:

Dayum! 5MHz !!!! You just walked all over the Z80 in my Amstrad 🙂

angelgraves13:

My used car was $7K Don’t know where you’ll find a car for $800. Not in this reality. Missing the engine? Maybe. Intel continues to live in the past...like they have no competition. Next year we’ll hear they’re laying off 40% of their staff.

airbud7:

jaggerwild got that thing cranked up I tell ya!.....:p

Andrew LB:

How are you getting direct benefits? Looking at the guru3d review of the Corsair MP600, all the real world tests were on par with PCIe 3.0 drives. The small file read speed is almost identical between 3.0 and 4.0 drives which is what matters for game load times and the test results show just that. I guess if you like running synthetic benchmarks, the new 4.0 drives are the way to go.

Silva:

My friend once bought a car for 150€ or so, most of that was to change the register. He ran it for a full year before buying his current car. Year, Odometer, Condition, Rarity, Reliability, are all factors that influence the pricing. I've seen people asking 3K for cars with no engine, wile I bought mine for 2.75K in acceptable running condition. Economics.