They sure have a good reason for the delays, they are not lazy or anything like that, issues need to be solved. Now though, they will have a very hard time selling their products in autumn (at the earliest) and it's not only about the comparable performance, but more about performance per watt and the silicon sizes. Nvidia and AMD will offer significantly better power efficiency in next generation compared to Intel, so how a supposedly 250 W A770 can compete in any meaningful way? They cannot lower the price down enough to make it very profitable and by so appealing, since I doubt any next-gen part with something like 180 W consumption will cost much over 350 € when prices normalize, while such will most likely be comparable in performance. They have in their hands now for real a "too little too late" situation, so they most likely will not release products in as great volume this generation on the retail front as they originally planned, at least regarding the fastest models. They do have hope though if AMD and Nvidia are arrogant enough to not fill the budget segment quickly to block Intel's presence there, since seemingly Intel's lower end models are very competitive and welcome also, because there are no very good new budget options available at all from the two old players - only the RTX 3050 when it's price drops down. So I expect Alchemist to be on the retail front a budget oriented release and not bad at that, and most performance pursuing customers including me will check the later releases from Intel, but unfortunately even the next generation from them (Battlemage) is a pass if one buys a new GPU in the end of this year.

GamerNerves:

they are not lazy or anything like that

*looking at the years Intel basically did nothing because of lack of competition and kept us thinking 4-core CPUs were "luxury"*

Aura89:

*looking at the years Intel basically did nothing because of lack of competition and kept us thinking 4-core CPUs were "luxury"*

As well aknowledged back then their efforts were elsewhere and as some have said now they primarily focus on the data center segment. It is not very unlikely that without decent competition any company would bring down their effort, since that is the nature of the market. It was certainly not a positive period on the desktop CPU front, but it is over now, so I don't think it benefits to stare at the past.

GamerNerves:

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GamerNerves:

They sure have a good reason for the delays, they are not lazy or anything like that, issues need to be solved. Now though, they will have a very hard time selling their products in autumn (at the earliest) and it's not only about the comparable performance, but more about performance per watt and the silicon sizes. Nvidia and AMD will offer significantly better power efficiency in next generation compared to Intel, so how a supposedly 250 W A770 can compete in any meaningful way? They cannot lower the price down enough to make it very profitable and by so appealing, since I doubt any next-gen part with something like 180 W consumption will cost much over 350 € when prices normalize, while such will most likely be comparable in performance. They have in their hands now for real a "too little too late" situation, so they most likely will not release products in as great volume this generation on the retail front as they originally planned, at least regarding the fastest models. They do have hope though if AMD and Nvidia are arrogant enough to not fill the budget segment quickly to block Intel's presence there, since seemingly Intel's lower end models are very competitive and welcome also, because there are no very good new budget options available at all from the two old players - only the RTX 3050 when it's price drops down. So I expect Alchemist to be on the retail front a budget oriented release and not bad at that, and most performance pursuing customers including me will check the later releases from Intel, but unfortunately even the next generation from them (Battlemage) is a pass if one buys a new GPU in the end of this year.

Where do you get that Intel's lower end models are very competitive? They have yet to actually release anything. In the mobile segment, the last benchmark I saw put Intel's top mobile GPU at a lower performance level than NVidia's entry level mobile GPU..... That's not even remotely promising. Rumors had already put Intel's top discrete GPU on par with the RTX3070, which will be replaced by the time Intel finally launches anything and if rumors are true, Intel's top discrete GPU will be on par with the RTX4050 at that point. At this point, Raja is doing what Raja does best. Over promise, under deliver and do so embarrassingly late.....

Silva:

By September they'll cancel the project.

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sykozis:

Where do you get that Intel's lower end models are very competitive? They have yet to actually release anything. In the mobile segment, the last benchmark I saw put Intel's top mobile GPU at a lower performance level than NVidia's entry level mobile GPU..... That's not even remotely promising. Rumors had already put Intel's top discrete GPU on par with the RTX3070, which will be replaced by the time Intel finally launches anything and if rumors are true, Intel's top discrete GPU will be on par with the RTX4050 at that point. At this point, Raja is doing what Raja does best. Over promise, under deliver and do so embarrassingly late.....

So you think they can't top RX 6500 XT or the 6400 XT? Even beating RTX 3050 should be rather easy. PS. Or are you one of those who consider an RTX 3070/Ti a midrange product?

GamerNerves:

So you think they can't top RX 6500 XT or the 6400 XT? Even beating RTX 3050 should be rather easy. PS. Or are you one of those who consider an RTX 3070/Ti a midrange product?

Beating 6500XT and RTX3050 doesn't really matter..... Especially if you're priced well above them. Intel's best bet is to appeal to the mid-range crowd if they want market share. If NVidia launches early, as rumors suggest, and gives the rumored performance boost, the RTX4050 is likely going to trample Intel's top card at a much lower price point. For next generation, I, like many others, will be looking at RTX4060/4070 and RX7600 - RX7800..... If Intel can't compete with those cards, they won't be an option for most gamers. Most of us aren't even going to be considering RX6500XT or RTX3050 once NVidia and AMD release their next-gen cards. Neither were even a consideration for me to begin with.