Intel 14th Gen Core "Raptor Lake Refresh" Series Rumored Lineup Reveals Enhanced Cores and Clock Speeds
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Valken
Ryzen 3DVC really pushing competition!
Ojref
Show me a 13900K that doesn't already hit 6.0 GHz using XTU. What a joke, utterly pathetic.
Undying
Intel bringing the competition can only be a good thing. I still think they wont beat zen4d in gaming with this refresh.
illrigger
Honestly the most exciting thing here is the 6 core i3 chips, which will be awesome for home servers and SFF builds.
chispy
Good , this will be last hooray for lga 1700. Nice to see that the Z690 chipset will support this cpu , making it a 3 cpu gen. support cicle instead of 1 or 2.
It will give me a chance to upgrade to the 14900KS later as my 13700KF is a dud , potatoe , lemon cpu 😏 😳
Carfax
13th gen can be faster than Zen 4 3D depending on how it's configured, but it will be game dependent. Raptor Lake needs to be overclocked and paired with the fastest manually turned RAM to compete the humongous L3 cache that the Zen 4 3D parts have.
High speed DDR5 with XMP timings is inferior to lower frequency DDR5 with manual tuning. To be sure though, Intel will finally have an answer to Zen 3D with their 15th gen CPUs which are expected to have massive L4 caches.
Undying
15gen will go against zen5. Things can get interesting later this year or early 2024.
Ivrogne
This.
I'm still salty about my core i7 laptop with only 2core 4threads in my college days.
cucaulay malkin
8p+8e i5 with 6ghz clocks, r7000x3d performance at 300eur running on ddr4 lol.
ToxicTaZ2000
Pretty sure mentioned over 6 GHz in the video MLD and two clock speeds...
14900K 6.2GHz
14900KS 6.5GHz
I guess we find out September 19th Raptor Lake Refresh launch party, I'm expecting 14KS 6.5GHz Demo...fingers crossed.
Cheers
Carfax
Are single core boost clocks important anymore for performance? Most every kind of software these days that's worth a damn is multithreaded, including the most used application of them all, the browser. Those high boost clocks on 14th gen appear impressive, but for me I want to know what the all core boost clocks are going to be.
alanm
With 4k becoming a more used res in gaming, performance differences narrow down quite a bit and Z5 has not much of an edge.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d/22.html
nizzen
I have both 13900k and 7800x3d. 13900k with 8400mhz max tuned and 7800x3d with 6200mhz max tuned. Both are max of the memory controller of my cpu's. In most games, the 13900k is faster. I play Battlefield games most of the time, and with fast ddr5 13900k is faster in cpubound scenario. Both cpu's gives VERY high fps 😀
My 7800x3d setup is way cheaper than the 13900k setup 🙂
MegaFalloutFan
These will do it out of the box and probably with lower power than what it is now with XTU
Should be great for unraid, i have 12700 with e cores disabled for unraid, works great
Venix
hmmm with products out of the box reaching 6 + ghz ... witch is insanity if you think about it ... i wonder if we will see with in 10-20 years 10ghz ...remember somewhere 2002~2003 when rumors where around that intel will keep going with p4 till they hit 10ghz ?? Thank god p4 is not still a thing but frequency wise ......seems like we are 60~65% there ...and by we i mean intel :P
cucaulay malkin
if intel's 10nm can do 6.5, think what their 3/4nm will.
TLD LARS
Running a CPU at 6 GHz is not efficient, a singlecore of a 13900KS uses the same power as 8 cores at around 3GHz in a AMD Z1 handheld and the 8 cores in total are 5 times faster in all core load.
The 13900KS at full speed, if you are able to cool it, is also the same power as a 64 core Epic and a little tweaking of the 13900KS with big water, bare die and things like that could probably beat the 96 core 3D cache Epic monster in power usage.
cucaulay malkin
production 13th gen doesn't have dlvr, I think only Engineering Samples had it. 14th production gen will. so +6g clocks and lower power. plus unlocked i5's are going to be 8p+8e now. r7000x3d performance on ddr4 at 300eur incoming.
TLD LARS
According to the slides I have seen, it only makes a difference at workloads below 70 Amps, so 1.3Vcore X 70Amps is 91 Watts.
Above 91 Watts it should make no difference if you have DLVR or not.
The biggest difference is likely in laptop usage
The extra voltage regulator might even produce a little extra heat at full load that also needs to be cooled.
A good voltage regulator still has around 2-4% loss, at 300 Watts that is 6-12 Watts of extra heat that also needs to be cooled by the water block.
cucaulay malkin
i5s will still be 6c so its a waste anyway.
