Google Pixel 7/7 Pro comes with new Tensor G2 CPU
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PrMinisterGR
I don't understand how Google dares sell these just $100 cheaper than the iPhone. They're twice as slow, and have literally twice less the software support.
anticupidon
A 6,7 inch screen for the Pro model is bordeline a small tablet.
May the 6A drops even more on price. That's what I want, to get one and flash GrapheneOS on it.
nicugoalkeper
It depends how you look at it, because iPhone had always the advantage of IOS, but Android is is catching up in terms of stability (still not there). On hardware side there are alvays better phones on the maket, or are coming up, every year or even less.
And btw many don't like IOS or don't want to use IOS, look how many IOS vs Android phones are on the world...
Also Android phones devalues faster. So in 8-16 weeks will be cheaper with more that $100...
moab600
Don't know what the fuss with the Pixel line, the last devices weren't great at all and Google isn't top dog when it comes to photography a long time ago.
Silva
Base model comes with two cameras, a wide and a ultra-wide. Does anyone actually uses the ultra-wide?
My phone has 4 back cameras and I only use 1: the main one. It would be so much better to have telephoto lens than an ultra-wide...
Ivrogne
I think the main reason more people use android devices is because they're generally cheaper. You can always find a brand new $100 android phones, especially in SEA.
fredgml7
Yeah, even so it does what majority of people need.
Who really needs a high-end smartphone?
Ghosty
No one does, but if it's available on cell contact with data, text etc, it's not too bad, I suppose.
Denial
First part is kind of true - the SoC is slower in some ways, the ML stuff I think is faster but less people probably care about that.
I think both phones are supported 5 years now?
This isn't true? Multiple places show Pixel's trading blows with other top phones in photography. It typically only ranks lower when you bring video and/or other one off features. But for straight up photos it's ranked one of the best (I personally think the best as I have a S21U and my GF has a Iphone 14).
Yeah I kind of agree. I use the tele moreso than the ultrawide. I think the ultrawide is cheaper to include though then doing the periscope thing for a telephoto.
nekrosoft13
screw apple and ios, never going to buy a closed eco system device, I will do with my phone as i please.
Ghosty
Jailbreak? AKA prison for the mentally challanged.
Glottiz
Iphones get 5-6 years of OS updates. Pixel get 3.
thesebastian
I had a few Google phones, oldest one was the Galaxy Nexus. Current one is the Pixel 5.
I don't like spending too much in the phones (like more than 600€ on a phone, even if I did it before) therefore, if I recommend a Google Phone is some of the "A" variants or a previous year model at reduced price.
However I also dislike the phones wider than 70mm. My Pixel 5 is around that size and it is on the limit, this is why I'm also not interested in getting a Pixel 7. But also because the Pixel 5 works just fine I charge it every 2 days and it still has 96% battery health, so I don't see a reason to upgrade to a bigger Pixel and start complaining about the size.
My favourites Google phones were: Nexus 5, Pixel 2 and Pixel 5. I had 0 issues in the years I used them (Well, the Pixel 2 gave me some shutdown issues at -20C in a ski resort, but at that low temp, at 2800+ meters in the middle of a snow storm, I can't complain if the battery was getting frozen).
The ones I didn't like much were the 5X (LG, quality issues and most of them had a hardware fault), 6P (Huawei, too big and heavy), Pixel 4 (Google, OK size but no fingerprint reader in the middle of the pandemic sucks, then it has poor battery efficiency and the SoC overheats in whatsapp video calls)
anticupidon
Flashing CalyxOS or GrapheneOS on Pixels adds up some additional years.
moab600
reix2x
Fun stuff, i never use the telephoto lens and use the ultrawide one a lot more than the normal x1 lens (7 of 10 photos are shot with ultrawide in my side)... it is a very subjective thing
UZ7
I used to be a Google Phone only guy. Slowly throughout the years they kept giving me a reason not to pick them starting with the no more unlimited photo/video storage etc...
Nexus 4 -> Nexus 5 -> Nexus 6p -> Pixel XL -> Pixel 2 -> Pixel 3a
Had to jump ship after that to Samsung starting with S10 -> S20+ -> S21Ultra -> S22Ultra / Flip4
I'm not sure how this inhouse Tensor G2 will fair but I'm pretty sure it'll still be behind Exynos, miles behind Snapdragon, and half the globe behind A16.
I think at one point Google did have a good post processing/ai photo enhancement but the other companies have pretty much caught up.
Sure you get the latest software from Google as they release but at the end of the day you're still a beta tester and half the stuff wont support it.
Denial
I'll agree that support from Apple has been better but the line is blurry, especially after Pixel 6. Pixel's (since P6) are getting 5 years of feature drops/security updates, 3 years of OS. Apple doesn't really do "feature drops" like google does for it's phones. Apple doesn't really have a project mainline feature either (mostly because they don't need it due to little fragmentation) - Google can update major underlining systems of the OS for years via playstore and never have to upgrade the OS itself. Apple OS updates often drop a bunch of the newer features for older phones anyway. So I think only comparing the years of OS updates isn't really a good indication of total support.
It's kind of funny - I jumped from a Pixel 4XL to a S21U and came back for the P6 Pro. In the end I actually find the P6 Pro to be mostly a sidegrade, worse in some ways better in others - in the Camera department specifically, I find the 6 pro better than the S21U. Mainly because of the shutter lag on the S21. Basically made capturing pictures of my dog/nephews impossible. Was really frustrating.
sykozis
I went from Nexus 4 to Nexus 5 to Nexus 5x, N6P....then had to defect to LG until the Pixel 3A, which caused me to defect to Samsung for the S20 after multiple issues. I was really hoping the Pixel 7 would be less of the Pixel 6....but I guess I'll wait for the S23 since I need battery life, which the S22 seems to lack.
I find a high-end smartphone to be of benefit to me, personally. I use my phone a lot for work and the faster it can launch the apps I need, the better. A good camera that can actually focus at less than 1ft away would be nice as well. My S20 seems to regularly fail at focusing on things I need to take pictures of.
UZ7
Now that I think about it, you're right. I do notice a bit of delay before it actually captures, I always thought it wasn't registering my thumb or something lol.
I've always liked the clean vanilla android but a while back it was still a battery drainer for some reason while Samsung had more battery optimizations.
I think its starting to level off because based on the specs it does look like they're probably using a Samsung display and then trying to maximize on battery size as well.
Again not sure on their new chip but if its very battery efficient maybe with the display + battery size it can have a one up.
So far the Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 shows a lot of potential with the Light Mode profile along with the LTPO Samsung display, with the Flip 4 I can see myself barely getting by the entire day with heavy data use... so if it had a 5000mAh (3700mAh on the flip4), I'm sure it will last a long time. Compared to the S22U that has the 8 Gen 1 + 5000mAh, I felt that my previous S21U had better battery life.... so that goes to show the TSMC process makes a big difference.
