GeForce GTX 1660 Spotted in Presentation - TU116 with GDDR5 and GDDR6 inbound
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0blivious
10 Series, 20 Series. RTX is the new thing! Wait, there's more GTX 10 series. Hold on, we have a 1600 series too but it's really just a 10 series refresh. Have you heard about Ray-Tracing?
My 1st biggest issue with Nvidia is their pricing. My 2nd is their new direction in naming their cards. The stock market doesn't expect them to grow in 2019. I cannot disagree.
go4brendon
RTX is just another feature like PhysX which will be used in limited titles for limited years. Nice to have, but not largely accepted. Same with DX12 when that hype train was real look at it today, no-one cares if a game runs in DX11 or 12 just that it does.
Andy Watson
As a GTX 970 owner trying to finally upgrade for a reasonable price that will up suite my needs this may be it. Depending on price and performance. or could wait even fecking longer for ATi or nvidia .7nm....
Looking forward to the review, will gddr6 make a difference? and how much will that difference cost?
ezodagrom
Except it's not a refresh, 16 series are still Turing GPUs, just without the RT cores (and possibly without Tensor cores as well).
HardwareCaps
No... tessellation was running fine on Nvidia when they tried to push it hard(AMD was having issues with it) and didn't require dedicated hardware. completely different!
Even if its based on the Turing architecture with all the memory/cache changes. the performance difference while having the same CUDA count will be minimal.
now ofc it depends on the 1660 price. if its at 150$~180$, then its great cuz the 1060 cost 250$ at launch but I bet it won't
HardwareCaps
Never saw a situation where u lose 50% of your performance from HIGH to ULTRA. and again it doesn't require dedicated hardware that makes the chips much more expensive.
ezodagrom
RTX 2060, same CUDA count as the 1070 yet it has 1070 Ti level of performance.
I wouldn't be surprised if the base 1660 ends up either trading blows with the RX 590, or being just a little bit weaker than it.
Price wise, seems like the 1660 6GB will be $230 and the 1660 Ti $280, apparently.
alanm
Never saw a situation where you get much visual improvement from high to ultra either.
Undying
https://www.dsogaming.com/news/nvidia-geforce-gtx1660ti-rumoured-to-be-releasing-on-february-15th-priced-at-279-usd/
1660ti 279$
1660 229$
1650 179$
schmidtbag
I'm glad Nvidia finally realized that they can use Ti on their 60 series (not sure why they've avoided it for so many years) but it's a shame we don't get 2060 performance without raytracing. But, I understand why they did this - they need to convince people that the RT cores are extra special, even outside of raytracing purposes.
Here's what I don't get though:
Is Nvidia planning on releasing a 2050 or 2050Ti? Because if so, those would likely fall under the performance of the 1660 and 1660Ti. I'm not sure if Nvidia plans on using raytracing on the 2050s, but if they don't, that's going to make their product lineup even more confusing than it already is.
Netherwind
I wish I knew the sales figures. How does the 2080Ti sell compared to the 1080Ti?
fantaskarsef
Yeah, I wonder about that also
Undying
There will probably be no 2050 this gen. These cards are here replace the lower tier. As you can see beside 1660 now even 1650 is coming.
Fox2232
I mentioned it for those who "Never Saw". BDO = Black Desert: Online
HardwareCaps
BDO is horribly built and not done by a respectable studio. the vast majority of games don't show this kind of behavior.
you point is invalid.
D3M1G0D
That pretty much does it then. There will be no mainstream RTX option for Turing, and Nvidia is indeed repeating their mistake with the GeForce 4. This will significantly hold back ray-tracing developments (and DLSS), making it a niche feature in a few games instead of a game changer - we can basically forget about ray-tracing for this generation. Way to shoot yourself in the foot, Nvidia.
Then again, I sort of suspected that this might be the case, seeing how underpowered the 2080 Ti was in ray-tracing. There was little hope that a mainstream card would deliver acceptable performance.
Exodite
To be fair I don't think Nvidia's midrange cards supporting RTX and DLSS would have changed anything with regards to adoption of those technologies in games.
PC gaming is a niche market when you consider gaming overall, aside from some franchises or genres that never had big adoption on consoles to begin with, and Nvidia is one of three players in PC graphics. I wouldn't expect realtime raytracing to see big adoption in new titles overall until the consoles support it, which might be as early as next generation if we're lucky.
With that in mind Nvidia's decision to restrict RTX and DLSS to the enthusiast space makes a certain amount of sense, as it's going to be a minor feature add more than a necessity for the foreseeable future. The inclusion may be an incentive for customers willing to pay more but hardly worth paying for in a more budget-constrained market. It's basically just product segmentation which, at this point in time, makes sense as realtime raytracing isn't in any way a necessary feature.
alanm
Doubt it. Can imaging everyone cringing as they see a 2050's RT benchmarks. Nvidias shame would be complete.
Fox2232
Therefore you saw it. Which makes your "Never Saw" statement... And it does exists, therefore it is valid.
Have you played it? Have you seen visual differences between those details? Have you seen those real time reflections and other changes in details as you max it?
ezodagrom
If they were planning a 2050/2050 Ti, there would be no 16 series at all, I think that RTX 2060 is as low as RTX will get in this generation.
If anything seems like there's just a rumored 1650 for $180 and the 1050 Ti will get its price lowered.
