EIZO FORIS FG2421 240 Hz Gaming Monitor

JonasBeckman

2013-10-30 09:02

So it's a 120Hz that uses some trick to effectively double that so it looks like 240Hz? No idea what VN panel is either, I guess this is still a sort of TN though but I don't know these things all that well. Will be nice to see IPS or better with 120Hz though, one day. 🙂 (LED, OLED or whatever might be around by then.)

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TheDeeGee

2013-10-30 09:51

VA is very sensitive to pressure and heat. Anyways, i need to get rid of my EIZO EV2436W because the IPS Glow is distracting in Games with dark areas. I will probably end up getting the CX240 depending on the noise of the cooling fans.

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kapu

2013-10-30 10:32

So it's a 120Hz that uses some trick to effectively double that so it looks like 240Hz? No idea what VN panel is either, I guess this is still a sort of TN though but I don't know these things all that well. Will be nice to see IPS or better with 120Hz though, one day. 🙂 (LED, OLED or whatever might be around by then.)

I hate IPS panels , i had one and quickly swaped it for PVA display. IPS have this horrible glow(bulish kinda). In my oponion IPS panels are not suitable for gams or watching movies because of terrible black which glows , someone who had IPS will know what i'm talking about.

#4688188

JonasBeckman

2013-10-30 10:46

The panel shouldn't have that effect from what little I know at least (And there's various types of IPS too.) so that should have been more about it's calibration and such but again my knowledge about these things is pretty limited. Seems I was wrong with that previous post as well, monitor does look to be quite good actually, at least according to this. http://www.flatpanelshd.com/review.php?subaction=showfull&id=1383107475

#4688194

Texter

2013-10-30 11:03

For about €500 this is a really nice EIZO monitor.

#4688201

kapu

2013-10-30 11:22

I my self have EIZO screen, no doubt about their quality but i rather have worse panel latency than bad black colour , for me this is top priority. This panel is VA , my FS2331 has VA panel and it's excellent , in this one they improved latency(this is ONLY flaw i found in my monitor) so its even better. I would never trade VA/PVA for IPS panel, belieave it will have glow , i seen at least couple monitors with IPS, different types.

Black depth was one of the parameters that we were excited to examine on FG2421 because VA panels are known to produce very deep blacks compared to TN panels and especially IPS panels that generally produce very weak blacks. So it came as no big surprise to us that that we measured black depth to 0.03 cd/m2, but we are still thrilled about the result. Compare that to the best IPS panels or 120 Hz TN panels that hover around 0.12 - 0.20 cd/m2. You might think that it is a minor difference, but in practical use it is very significant. Especially when working in a dark room or watching dim and scary movies or games. The very impressive black depth adds dimension and vividness to pictures. It really does improve picture quality and we think that a lot of gamers will appreciate this in certain types of games, for example role playing games. The FG2421 is not the first monitor to reach these levels of black depth, far from, but it is the first to combine it with 120 Hz for gaming. It truly is a small revolution in gaming monitors.

Sums it up very well

#4688225

-Tj-

2013-10-30 11:39

Well I have FS2333 model and its not bad. But I agree there is a difference, (P)VA has better contrast/darks. My old monitor was s-pva and its the first thing I noticed. I wish Eizo would have released this monitor 1 year ago, I would pick this FG2421, well probably.. 500€ is a bit expensive :P HDMI: 15 - 100 kHz, 23 - 122 Hz DVI: 31 - 138 kHz, 59 - 122 Hz DisplayPort: 31 - 138 kHz, 49 - 122 Hz

#4688242

kapu

2013-10-30 12:02

What happens when you play on 120Hz flat screen and have lets say 80FPS ?

#4688249

-Tj-

2013-10-30 12:08

Nothing, I guess less tearing with vsync off... At least that's what i see if fps drop ~40-50fps vs ~62-67fps

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TheDeeGee

2013-10-30 12:10

I would never trade VA/PVA for IPS panel, belieave it will have glow , i seen at least couple monitors with IPS, different types.

That's what i experience myself at the moment with my EV2436W. The IPS Glow in corners is extremely distracting. I came from a EIZO S2231W which was S-PVA - CCFL. Just a shame this FORIS ain't 16:10.

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kapu

2013-10-30 12:15

That's what i experience myself at the moment with my EV2436W. The IPS Glow in corners is extremely distracting. I came from a EIZO S2231W which was S-PVA - CCFL. Just a shame this FORIS ain't 16:10.

Not a problem for me but i can imagine it's a problem for some people.

#4688360

TheDeeGee

2013-10-30 14:23

After reading the FlatPanel review i guess it can be compared to my old EIZO S2231W which uses an S-PVA Panel? No annoying Glow like IPS right?

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kapu

2013-10-30 15:08

After reading the FlatPanel review i guess it can be compared to my old EIZO S2231W which uses an S-PVA Panel? No annoying Glow like IPS right?

Nope , you wont see that on VA(and variations) panels.

#4688450

drac

2013-10-30 15:54

At least things are finally moving away from horrible TN panels! All this needs is 27" and 1440p and it would be absolutely incredible. :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

#4688533

Corrupt^

2013-10-30 17:58

What happens when you play on 120Hz flat screen and have lets say 80FPS ?

Not ideal but it still feels better then 80 fps on a 60 Hz monitor.

#4688543

StewieTech

2013-10-30 18:16

Hum this is more of a marketing scheme. The truth is the human eye still can see the downfall of interlaced video, particularly half the lines missing on a refresh when looking at fast moving objects on the screen. So, if (i didn´t read the story btw) this monitor is intended for gaming it kind of shots himself in the foot to those who know the basics about how hardware works. Sure, a not so knowledge kid who thinks that bigger is better will look at this and think it´s the best thing ever but oh well ignorance is a easy way to exploit some dollars.

#4688581

Loobyluggs

2013-10-30 18:42

Basically priced themselves out of the very market they are trying to attract. It's analogous to being a politician and condoning legalizing hemp for personal usage. The people who would vote for this, unfortunately cannot be bothered to leave the confines of their living room and probably don't even register to vote in the first place. The politician loses votes on both sides as a result. So here Eizo are; trying to make a high-refresh gaming monitor by pricing themselves out of reach. Srsly... Gimme the option for a decent panel and high refresh rate and then make it too expensive and not even proper 24" or 27" to boot. 'Grats on screwing this up royally, because looking at the competition you got no chance Eizo...

#4688822

orky87

2013-10-30 21:42

Until patents are lifted we'll always face unsatisfactory results, how can innovation progress when every tech is tightly locked down..

#4689009

exodus1337

2013-10-31 01:44

All monitors will totally inferior as soon as the first g-sync one comes out... gonna be so epic.... no more page tearing EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#4689208

drac

2013-10-31 11:36

All monitors will totally inferior as soon as the first g-sync one comes out... gonna be so epic.... no more page tearing EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Praying for a good 1440p (more than 60hz) with g-sync mahself.