i9-7940x is 14 cores but 24 threads? Looks weird.

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People said the same about Dual Cores, from this point onward, Devs will take advantage of more cores due to the simple reason that they're becoming more common. Intel will also now release more than just 4 cores for the mid-high end range market, whereas more was only available for Enthusiast market and extremely expensive. The only reason Devs won't optimize for 8+ cores if the Engine they're using just doesn't support it. As for Encoding, Image/Video Editing, Rendering etc All these cores are very good. Even MMOs that are famous for not using more than one thread properly are already using various threads, it's just a matter of time before 8 cores becomes the mainstream, and the amount of time it will take will depend on how manufacturers price their 8+ cores. Not to mention that even a 7700k (stock) might be close or even Bottleneck next gen GPUs like Volta or SLI on it. Even if a 5GHZ 7700k would fix that, 5Ghz is out of reach for a lot of 7700k owners anyway. But time will tell.

Not to mention the consoles (scorpio and that PS5) are moving to 8 cores as well! If anything, that's a strong indicator devs will optimise games for 8 cores early development, which the multi-core pc community can benefit from. I was intending to upgrade from 4 core to 6 core (R5 1600x) this summer, but now I'm strongly reconsidering a 1700, 10 core Whiteheaven. Or this intel 7820x if it's priced acceptable.

I imagine an 18 core oced past 4ghz is gonna be a house fire.

I imagine an 18 core oced past 4ghz is gonna be a house fire.

You could build a custom liquid cooler loop than incorporates a turbine generator. You could harvest back 50% of the energy.

just use a thermo electric pad on the CPU to harvest the waste power back into the cpu and create a perpetual adiabatic solar roadways

There is a price leak of 7920X at $1649, 7900X at $1099, 7800X at $649 etc So maybe 7980XE is gonna be $4000. 7960X - 3299$ 7940X - 2499$

Competition is good to all of us as consumers. We have to thank AMD for that. I hope Intel is going to compete in price too.

Intel has had Xeons with more cores than this for a while. The actual "panic" from Intel is the fact they're creating 18-core desktop parts with a turbo speed that is desparately trying to make sure their chips stay on top. I say desperate because with 18 cores, Intel is banking on the idea that these consumers aren't concerned about wattage or TDP. Back in the early Turbo Boost days where the amount of turboed cores were limited, I'd say Intel's 4.5GHz speeds would be fantastic. But since TB3 allows for all cores, I expect you'll need a pretty beefy PSU to keep up. The only way to truly deem if Intel is in a panic are the prices. If the 18-core is less than $4500, I'd consider that panicking. With Moore's "Law" coming to an end soon, I'm really not liking this ridiculous battle of more cores. Reminds me of the Cold War with the US and Russia having enough nukes to obliterate the entire planet several times over. In terms of everday use, 4 threads is sufficient for the average user and 12 is sufficient for power-users. When it comes to parallelization, that's what GPUs are for. I'd much rather see efforts to into OpenCL than developers tweaking programs for more CPU cores. I see a use for 16+ threads for servers, but when you consider how much Intel charges, you're much better off just building more servers - in the enterprise market, redundancy is more important than sheer processing power. I'd much rather see AMD and Intel focus on reducing latency and power consumption.

There is a price leak of 7920X at $1649, 7900X at $1099, 7800X at $649 etc So maybe 7980XE is gonna be $4000. 7960X - 3299$ 7940X - 2499$

Yeah if the "lower" end i9 7900x is around 1060$ and the 7920x at 1600$ I wonder what these other high-end models will be priced at, both of these are already above what I'd normally pay for a CPU, ha ha. 😀 https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/786051-intel-x299-processor-pricing-leaked/ EDIT: Can that image be copied? https://i.imgur.com/7bK5uzX.png Yep. Though this isn't confirmed yet and Intel's MSRP (If I remember how it was called.) could be different from what the retailers suggest, particularly if these are pre-order prices before more concrete info (And pricing.) becomes available. EDIT: Well these CPU's do have a few more cores than usual too, will be interesting to see how they perform. 🙂

Well this might just be a good thing as now AMD will come in as low as possible price wise to combat Intel.

Intel has had Xeons with more cores than this for a while. The actual "panic" from Intel is the fact they're creating 18-core desktop parts with a turbo speed that is desparately trying to make sure their chips stay on top. I say desperate because with 18 cores, Intel is banking on the idea that these consumers aren't concerned about wattage or TDP. Back in the early Turbo Boost days where the amount of turboed cores were limited, I'd say Intel's 4.5GHz speeds would be fantastic. But since TB3 allows for all cores, I expect you'll need a pretty beefy PSU to keep up. The only way to truly deem if Intel is in a panic are the prices. If the 18-core is less than $4500, I'd consider that panicking. With Moore's "Law" coming to an end soon, I'm really not liking this ridiculous battle of more cores. Reminds me of the Cold War with the US and Russia having enough nukes to obliterate the entire planet several times over. In terms of everday use, 4 threads is sufficient for the average user and 12 is sufficient for power-users. When it comes to parallelization, that's what GPUs are for. I'd much rather see efforts to into OpenCL than developers tweaking programs for more CPU cores. I see a use for 16+ threads for servers, but when you consider how much Intel charges, you're much better off just building more servers - in the enterprise market, redundancy is more important than sheer processing power. I'd much rather see AMD and Intel focus on reducing latency and power consumption.

I thought TB2.0 is all cores and TB3.0 is 2 cores max speed. Which would make sense in the context of both being mentioned. edit: Actually nevermind both are max dual core freq for said tech. All core turbo just might be only tad higher then base or it is the base freq.

There is a price leak of 7920X at $1649, 7900X at $1099, 7800X at $649 etc So maybe 7980XE is gonna be $4000. 7960X - 3299$ 7940X - 2499$

USA always has the cheapest component prices, so for all we know, that 12C one could be 1500 dollars. Still too expensive if you ask me (not that I'd personally need so many cores, so my opinion is purely academic), but it would make sense from Intel. Nobody really expected them to dramatically drop prices, so if they give 2 cores more for a slightly lower price, that's something already.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/05/intels-new-high-end-desktop-platform-up-to-18-cores-36-threads-2000/ up to 165 watt tdp, yikes!

According to Anandtech's coverage of an Intel announcement the prices are as follows: $389 Core i7-7800X 6C/12T $599 Core i7-7820X 8C/16T $999 Core i9-7900X 10C/20T $1199 Core i9-7920X 12C/24T $1399 Core i9-7940X 14C/28T $1699 Core i9-7960X 16C/32T $1999 Core i9-7980XE 18C/36T Those are some big numbers...

According to Anandtech's coverage of an Intel announcement the prices are as follows: $389 Core i7-7800X 6C/12T $599 Core i7-7820X 8C/16T $999 Core i9-7900X 10C/20T $1199 Core i9-7920X 12C/24T $1399 Core i9-7940X 14C/28T $1699 Core i9-7960X 16C/32T $1999 Core i9-7980XE 18C/36T Those are some big numbers...

i7-7800x sounds too good ? below 400$ ? ....

So the first i9 costs 1,000$, great.

Prices are actually much better than I thought they were going to be. I would dearly love to know when the 18 core variant is going to ship.

Other thing to note: there's a lot less L3 cache on these (1.375 MB/core) than previous HEDT CPUs (2.5 MB/core). Wander why? And will this impact performance at all?

i7-7800x sounds too good ? below 400$ ? ....

People payed the same for 5820k couple of years ago. Is there any reason why should one upgrade from 6/12 5820k-x99 to 6/12 7800x-x299?