China Repurposing Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 GPUs for AI Applications

Published by

Click here to post a comment for China Repurposing Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 GPUs for AI Applications on our message forum
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/227/227994.jpg
Looks pretty much like a slaughter house, but for GPU's. Really sad to see.
data/avatar/default/avatar33.webp
Nvidia reports 8x or more profits, everybody jumps on the AI bandwagon. Pure capitalism...
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/246/246171.jpg
Not surprising in the slightest. While an RTX 6000 is an obviously better GPU than a 4090, it isn't more than 5x better (if we go by price). A lot of what you're paying for is customer support, which let's face it - China isn't going to get much of. So, they might as well save a ton of cash and opt for a cheaper and more common part. The only thing I don't get is why they didn't opt for AMD, who doesn't really cripple compute performance when opting for desktop parts. Whether you get RDNA, CDNA, or GeForce, their level of support will still suck; China is left to figure things out on their own regardless of what they opt for, so, I would think it'd make more sense to opt for a platform that's a little more powerful for their situation. Meanwhile, they have open-source drivers, so China could use their own CPU architecture and OS.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/165/165326.jpg
I think this is the reason why right now the rtx 4090 went up in price from $1600US Dollars to ~$2000US Dollars 😏, im having cryptomining pricing flashbacks ... They are scooping all the rtx 4090 gpu's and turned them into AI crap.
data/avatar/default/avatar30.webp
they will say they didn't put any blackboxed firmware limitation 'cuze for the players...
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/275/275921.jpg
chispy:

I think this is the reason why right now the rtx 4090 went up in price from $1600US Dollars to ~$2000US Dollars 😏, im having cryptomining pricing flashbacks ... They are scooping all the rtx 4090 gpu's and turned them into AI crap.
It won't last tho. But it will be interesting to see what happens to next gen and where they will be manufactured/distributed
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/258/258664.jpg
This is going to be very funny in this regard: They introduce a 5090 with LHR like algos to "limit" AI capabilities. People will try to smuggle non-"LHR" cards into China None of them is able to hide even a single one on their body but some will still try.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/275/275921.jpg
As long as the Chinese has to rely on getting this tech thru black market or other means, they are extremely vulnerable. How long before a AI "goes rogue" in China due to some hardware introduced malware?
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/238/238382.jpg
AuerX:

It won't last tho. But it will be interesting to see what happens to next gen and where they will be manufactured/distributed
I found it really interesting to see [Made in Vietnam] printed on my new video card...
fantaskarsef:

This is going to be very funny in this regard: They introduce a 5090 with LHR like algos to "limit" AI capabilities. People will try to smuggle non-"LHR" cards into China None of them is able to hide even a single one on their body but some will still try.
If they aren't putting a 5090 inside their anus then they ain't trying hard enough.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/275/275921.jpg
KissSh0t:

If they aren't putting a 5090 inside their anus then they ain't trying hard enough.
Quote of the year
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/268/268248.jpg
About the post ...my reaction was more like "yeah we know" . Now about ai a lot of people hate it and I understand it ai has the potential to do so much good and the most popular projects sadly are the distopian ones ...ai can really help us with materials science ...medical science ...weather prediction and the list goes on and on.... Allas we split the atoms so we can have cleaner energy and we make bombs out of it .... We invent aircrafts so the whole world got smaller and we can travel to other continents on mere hours than months .... And we strap guns and bombs on em ... Humanity.... Humanity never change.
data/avatar/default/avatar28.webp
schmidtbag:

Not surprising in the slightest. While an RTX 6000 is an obviously better GPU than a 4090, it isn't more than 5x better (if we go by price). A lot of what you're paying for is customer support, which let's face it - China isn't going to get much of. So, they might as well save a ton of cash and opt for a cheaper and more common part. The only thing I don't get is why they didn't opt for AMD, who doesn't really cripple compute performance when opting for desktop parts. Whether you get RDNA, CDNA, or GeForce, their level of support will still suck; China is left to figure things out on their own regardless of what they opt for, so, I would think it'd make more sense to opt for a platform that's a little more powerful for their situation. Meanwhile, they have open-source drivers, so China could use their own CPU architecture and OS.
Who said they are not doing this too? But I have to agree with you.on this...
fantaskarsef:

This is going to be very funny in this regard: They introduce a 5090 with LHR like algos to "limit" AI capabilities. People will try to smuggle non-"LHR" cards into China None of them is able to hide even a single one on their body but some will still try.
"cards"? Did you mean GPU and RAM chips? They can fab the PCB and everything else...
AuerX:

As long as the Chinese has to rely on getting this tech thru black market or other means, they are extremely vulnerable. How long before a AI "goes rogue" in China due to some hardware introduced malware?
LOL WUT? Turkey and Ukraine have AI drones already... They terminate base on profile, fly all day and land only to rearm and fuel... Even the big bad (meaning terrible) NATO cannot keep up...
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/275/275921.jpg
Valken:

LOL WUT? Turkey and Ukraine have AI drones already... They terminate base on profile, fly all day and land only to rearm and fuel... Even the big bad (meaning terrible) NATO cannot keep up...
What does that have to do with anything I said? Also what Turkey and Ukraine have as far as combat drones remains somewhat a fluid situation with a lot of conflicting information out there, as usual. But that's not really relevant in this discussion. (And Turkey is a NATO country)
data/avatar/default/avatar14.webp
AuerX:

What does that have to do with anything I said? Also what Turkey and Ukraine have as far as combat drones remains somewhat a fluid situation with a lot of conflicting information out there, as usual. But that's not really relevant in this discussion. (And Turkey is a NATO country)
You mentioned when AI will go rogue.. the first step is full autonomy which they already are there.. All the commies still retain human command and control. I stand corrected abt Turkey. The only NATO country with Russian Defense system... That threw me off..
data/avatar/default/avatar19.webp
after those alarming news I went to check the price of 4090 here, they were ok in october keyword were, they are now +400 to +1000$ from 1 month ago o_O nvidia tactic clearly worked 🙁
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/275/275921.jpg
kakiharaFRS:

after those alarming news I went to check the price of 4090 here, they were ok in october keyword were, they are now +400 to +1000$ from 1 month ago o_O nvidia tactic clearly worked 🙁
Nvidia tactic?
data/avatar/default/avatar18.webp
kakiharaFRS:

after those alarming news I went to check the price of 4090 here, they were ok in october keyword were, they are now +400 to +1000$ from 1 month ago o_O nvidia tactic clearly worked 🙁
no it's just the "black friday" where people things to get bargains instead they will pay more.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/275/275921.jpg
Buy stuff at launch. Feels good man.
https://forums.guru3d.com/data/avatars/m/238/238382.jpg
Who even needs kidneys anymore am I right Gamers...