Of course, so now please tell me where the line for wealthy enough to buy a $2k GPU lies?
What income level?
your pricing is off by a good 60% for the upcoming 3090ti
it's probably going to cost about $3,500 give or take-
I know this is an Enthusiast site but damn, I don't need a Rolls-Royce just to take me into town and back.
What does MSRP mean?....and please before you answer that question, point me in the direction of where I can buy/do that...we should change the definition...
Webster dictionary: MSRP stands for: hahahahaha!, we lied...
the people who will be buying this are not gamers (per se).
they are the same type of people who buy the new luxury car when it hits the market, despite the clearance sales on the current models.
just as those people might like luxury cars, but they're not driving enthusiasts.
yeah, i know... "generalize much?"...
Even some rich programmers/game developers are not buying these. As I once asked them once if they were getting a 3090 or such. They didn't see the requirement even though it's not expensive to them. While the gamers want them.
Why every 2 years?
I'm still using a GTX 1070 which i bought 8 years ago.
You are by 2 years but close enpugh i guess.
This just means your needs are different.
Personally I had to upgrade twice in a year. Vega 56>5700xt>6800xt. Dec 2019-Sep 2020
Yes it does. If you're willing to spend $2k on a frivolous device, you're wealthy. Most people on a budget can't justify such an expense.
If this was something people actually need, then yeah, wealth isn't as much of a factor here.
There's a difference between wealthy and rich. I can't justify the 3090 ti, but I gotta have it. Why, have no clue. But, I'm not going to ask how much it is.. If I do that means I can't afford it. Then when the 4080 comes out, I'll buy that too. 🙂
There's a difference between wealthy and rich. I can't justify the 3090 ti, but I gotta have it. Why, have no clue. But, I'm not going to ask how much it is.. If I do that means I can't afford it. Then when the 4080 comes out, I'll buy that too. 🙂
Reminds me of Ferrari. Seriously though, who would have thought consumer cards are now along the lines of the workstation cards.
There's a difference between wealthy and rich. I can't justify the 3090 ti, but I gotta have it. Why, have no clue. But, I'm not going to ask how much it is.. If I do that means I can't afford it. Then when the 4080 comes out, I'll buy that too. 🙂
First let me say that previously I have bought 2 Titans and a 3080ti but the 3090ti is a complete waste of money. You'll be paying twice as much as a 3090 for 10% more performance. There's a difference between rich and dumb.
There's a difference between wealthy and rich. I can't justify the 3090 ti, but I gotta have it. Why, have no clue. But, I'm not going to ask how much it is.. If I do that means I can't afford it. Then when the 4080 comes out, I'll buy that too. 🙂
I knew someone was going to point that out. I was going to rewrite my post to say "rich" but I'm like "eh whatever" and just left it anyway, because in this context, the semantics don't matter.
There's a difference between wealthy and rich. I can't justify the 3090 ti, but I gotta have it. Why, have no clue. But, I'm not going to ask how much it is.. If I do that means I can't afford it. Then when the 4080 comes out, I'll buy that too. 🙂
Not true. My salary is high enough to afford a 3090. But why would I? The 3080 is almost as good and i save lot of money which i can spend somewhere else like dunno travelling. To buy a 3090 without asking the price being able to afford one is not enough. Unless buying a 3090 = money for you (miner, workstation needing the vram, ...) then you need to be able to afford anything you want and still have spare money for the 3090.
Now for sure some young people will buy the 3090 without asking the price even if it means they will cut some corners somewhere else like not travel etc but that has not anything to do with having enough money to afford one lot of those young people can't really afford one they just thingk they can. I know one personally he spend all his pay check into gaming and do nothing else but gaming so obviously he can "afford" a 3090.
Not true. My salary is high enough to afford a 3090. But why would I? The 3080 is almost as good and i save lot of money which i can spend somewhere else like dunno travelling. To buy a 3090 without asking the price being able to afford one is not enough. Unless buying a 3090 = money for you (miner, workstation needing the vram, ...) then you need to be able to afford anything you want and still have spare money for the 3090.
Now for sure some young people will buy the 3090 without asking the price even if it means they will cut some corners somewhere else like not travel etc but that has not anything to do with having enough money to afford one lot of those young people can't really afford one they just thingk they can. I know one personally he spend all his pay check into gaming and do nothing else but gaming so obviously he can "afford" a 3090.
If he can pay his rent etc, and buy his gaming equipement without having to borrow money, then he can afford it. Not everyone wants to do the same stuff, or have the same priorities. And not everyone wants to travel. Your mindset is "i want to do these things, so if other people cant do those things, and at the same time afford the gaming gear, then they cant really afford it!" - kinda facked up logics...
If he can pay his rent etc, and buy his gaming equipement without having to borrow money, then he can afford it. Not everyone wants to do the same stuff, or have the same priorities. And not everyone wants to travel. Your mindset is "i want to do these things, so if other people cant do those things, and at the same time afford the gaming gear, then they cant really afford it!" - kinda facked up logics...
These arguments are as always completely pointless, there are many reason why somebody with a high annual income may not have disposable income, and those who earn a conservative amount may have much in the way of spare cash. A friend of mine thinks im mad spending £1400 (at the time) on my GPU (6900xt) but they dont see an issue of spending that same amount on an annual season ticket for their football team. Somebody who smokes 20 cigarettes a day in the UK will spend over £3500 a year which to me is crazy but i spent that amount in the last 12 months on various PC hardware, this is why the argument is pointless.
Even some rich programmers/game developers are not buying these. As I once asked them once if they were getting a 3090 or such. They didn't see the requirement even though it's not expensive to them. While the gamers want them.
what's really funny is the fact i'm friends with 6 people who are software engineers (or E.E.'s) @ Nvidia...
not one of the has an Ampere gpu, when my friends @ AMD all have (diff. flavors) rdna 2
well according to Steam Hardware Survey, there are more 3090 owners than 6800+6800XT+6900XT combined (.8% vs .6% under Vulkan systems), so yeah more PC enthusiasts are buying 3090...
If he can pay his rent etc, and buy his gaming equipement without having to borrow money, then he can afford it. Not everyone wants to do the same stuff, or have the same priorities. And not everyone wants to travel. Your mindset is "i want to do these things, so if other people cant do those things, and at the same time afford the gaming gear, then they cant really afford it!" - kinda facked up logics...
That's exactly my point?
You don't have to be able to not ask the price to be able to afford something like the person I replied to implied. It doesn't mean you should buy it though. Depends on your priority. Basically the only reason you would have to not ask the price is if you are rich beyond having to manage your budget at all. You can still be able to afford the damn card and ask the price to manage your budget to be able to do what you want to do. If like i said if all you want to do is gaming then you can afford a 3090 with a relatively small salary.
I received my £540 Msi 3070 gaming xtrio at the end of 2020 and it does what i need it too....4k 60fps gaming, I could push for a 3080 or even a 3090 but for the couple of hours a day i get for gaming it would be money poorly spent, its great that the boundaries of performance are being pushed but the gap between midrange affordable and top end is just getting bigger and bigger, a good 4k gaming rig that can push ultra settings should be the norm now not a luxury, I'm sure a 3070 16gig would have been the sweet spot for most people but obviously Nvidia dont care about most people, biggest problem now is the next gen mid range will be 3 times what i paid for my 3070 mid range card but my income will not increase 3x....when that happens my 30+ year interest is no longer a an interest.
it's probably going to cost about $3,500 give or take- I know this is an Enthusiast site but damn, I don't need a Rolls-Royce just to take me into town and back.