AMD, Intel, and Nvidia's CPU and GPU prices could rise another 20% in the next months.
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Catspaw
Obviously things will change over time.
Maybe it will be inflation, maybe price will drop when nobody buys it, maybe scalpers will buy it all up anyway.....
Point is: there is a triangle: What you want, the price you want to pay and when you want to have it.
You get to choose 2 in that triangle. Sometimes, when there is a LOT of competition, you get to pick all 3 sides of the triangle (CPUs right now are kinda an example with new intel CPUs being really good value).
I am of the opinion that getting what I want for the price that I want is more important than getting it now.
Its just that the higher the price difference, the longer the wait.
alanm
I think some of us may have to re-adjust our priorities. PC hobbyism and gaming does not have to be the major focus in ones life. I've gone many weeks without gaming and didnt care. Its not the end.
Pretty sure things will get back to some form of 'normal' in a couple years when all the new fabs are operational. All the major players, TSMC, Intel, Samsung have committed hundreds of billions of $ to expand chip production. Would not be even surprised if a glut were to occur in a few years.
cucaulay malkin
doesn't say it's material related
it's just tsmc milking their customers like they do
Embra
Everybody can thank Apple.
rl66
they do it too, but intel will rise price too, they can't stay at that price.
Netherwind
This will definitely hurt PC gaming growth. Hardware sales will definitely drop and I doubt CPU/GPUs release 2022 will sell that well. Sure, enthusiasts buying RTX 4080/4090 cards represent a small share of the total market but if 4060 will cost as much as 3080 did at release it will probably be too much.
386SX
Nope, they said prices will stay this high until the end of 2023. I wait ...
DeskStar
Man oh man oh man. My decisions on getting away from it all are being made clearer and clearer every day.
Moving towards ammunition/guns more and more.
I'll sit on my hardware now happily understanding what manufacturing companies say (BS) can E.A.D.!! Meaning they can eat a D*@$!
Sad as hell these corporations are allowed let alone capable of market segregation like this is beyond my understanding.
Hearing of a small component shortage and not anything else doesn't make sense that these prices would raise up over fifteen percent!
I mean I thought years ago they found a way for their silicon substrate to be like forty percent more efficient than previous years'....
Maybe I'm just thinking my own relative understanding of it all, but this is simply absurd to be hearing after companies were just saying availability and products alike were going to be readily available for the masses in second half to 2023!!
umeng2002
Wafer costs aren't the whole cost of a chip. If the price of chocolate increased 20%, the baker doesn't increase the cost of a chocolate cake 20%.
DeskStar
Hence I mentioned the small component shortage.
And yeah if one were to lower the cost overall of their silicon by that much I would imagine pricing being a bit less aggressive. I understand that the lower the size of the chip (7-5nm) the more expensive it can be, but also one should be getting more from the wafer overall. Depending on yields that is of course.
Although over the years they're comfortable with just massacring those price points for their own profitability. As pricing would seem to be a lot better on AMD's side of things considering their technological offerings.
64 core 128 threaded CPUs when the competition can't even get theirs up to say the least.
m4dn355
This is becoming mind-boggling!? The purpose of planning upgrades - upgrading - purchasing non-exsistent products is growing thinner by the day. . . 🙁
schmidtbag
IIRC, Intel is using TSMC for their GPUs.
Way ahead of you. Even if you ignore prices, PC hobbyism has grown incredibly boring. Everything is becoming so integrated and complex that there's nothing noteworthy to do within a certain budget other than change the visual style of your PC. And even then, just about every motherboard out there is just black with a bunch of RGB everywhere. There's so much competition that it hardly makes a difference who you pick beyond just the chip itself.
All I want is something capable of 4K@60FPS for a reasonable price. Otherwise, I don't care anymore. I've moved onto robotics, where my interest in computers and technology continues to grow. The trend of SoC'ing everything makes certain robotics projects more attainable.
I agree. New fabs will definitely help offset demand.
cucaulay malkin
lol
and they said they cut the specs so that more gamers could get their hands on it
now they're getting inflated prices and a trash card.
that's a boss move,amd.
CropDuster
Ammo prices are 2x what they were pre covid =/
Undying
When you think about two years ago you could buy a 5700xt for 400$ the best models like the red devil and nitro+. Today you can get the 6500xt for the same amount lol.
I wonder about rtx3050 will it be paper launch and how inflated that one will be, 500$?
H83
I don´t think people are upset because gaming is that important in their lifes, it´s just one of their favourites hobbies is becoming too expensive for what it´s worth.
Even worse, the same is happening to other hobbies, so it this trend continues, someday our hobbies are going to something like throwing stones at each other...
kakiharaFRS
you can be happy for even more than that, just went from 5950x to 12900k
amd has more lanes and actual usable bandwith (intel still full of fake nerfed ports and pcie slots)
amd is better for work or streaming (way better at multitasking like gaming+streaming+encoding another ultraHQ video yes you can do that with a 5950x)
intel is better at gaming...only gaming...not gaming+streaming ! pure gaming it's way smoother way way smoother but that's all it does and that's not much versus amd
p.s.
I half switched to real life activities, hardware is crazy expensive but the games are also, like movies...garbage it's not a good combo currently
alanm
To be fair, its not AMD. They announced this card with a $199 MSRP. Its supply and demand + greedy retailers. If they have a 1000 units, they know it will be sold out in a week at $199. Better to keep it in stock for a month @ $400 and double the profit. Thats why I earlier said MSRP for any GPU nowadays is pointless.
cucaulay malkin
well,they could give you a 6500xt that doesn't lose to 5500xt in that case.
That would be a good idea.
I know prices are awful,but at least the performance for the new cards was there.I got a 3060ti last year,and for 650eur it's same or faster than last years 2080 Super that cost 700 before the shortage.People who bought 6700xt got a lot more performance out of it than 5700xt.
Have you ever seen a worse performance for the successor,ever ? I haven't.
Even the 290/390 480/580/590 refreshes seem quite good compared to this.
I'm not blaming them for pricing,since the msrp is not even a thing these days.I'm blaming them for trying to sell us e-waste.
mikeysg
That about does it for me, I can forget about the 5800X3D upgrade, I'm just gonna stick with my excellent 3900X for the foreseeable future. On the bright side, it seems to do pretty fine with my 6900 XT, handling all the games I've thrown at it, other than Metro Exodus PC Enhanced at 3840x1080/max ingame setting/RT at highest available, with ease.
